Immediately after the draft I began kicking around a trade idea, and it seems like David Aldridge is thinking along the same lines. Read the part about Nash Dallas may want Shaq, but if they continue to insist that Dirk is untradeable, I don't think they'll get a deal done. Once both sides agree that they can't work out a deal, I see Dallas turning their full attention on Dampier. Dallas didn't draft Harris to be a back up pg the next few years, so Nash should already see the writing on the wall and be looking for a way out of Dallas. If the Warriors can't resign Damp themselves, I think they've got a great chance at working out a sign and trade for Nash, and hopefully Podkolzine. The problem is that that Donnie Nelson is probably the only guy higher on Podkolzine than I am, so the Warriors would probably have to throw in a future first rounder as well, but I'd totally be willing to do it if the pick were lottery protected for the next couple of years (heck, if Stern gets an age limit put in the next CBA, I'd be willing to send Dallas an unrestricted pick for that year because that draft is going to be awful). Here's a deal that works under the cap: Warriors trade: Damp (S&T for 8.5 mil) future first rounder Mavs trade: Nash (S&T for 7 mil) Podkolzine It's simple and its realistic. The Warriors would do it because they get an upgrade at pg, and given that Speedy and Nash are both injury prone, the Warriors should be able to have at least one healthy pg at all times (unless they happen to go down together). The Warriors could then resign Foyle to a 3 yr/9 mil deal like Speedy's, he'd do it because he'd get to stay with the Warriors and start. Resigning Foyle gives the Warriors a reliable center for the next couple of years. Podkolzine has the chance to be great, and if he turns out to be a bust, so what, they've got Biedrins. By the time Foyle's contract expires, Biedrins should be bulked up enough to play center full time. But imagine what the team would be like if Biedrins and Podkolzine both realize their full potential (which is a HUGE if). The two of them, along with Murphy, could form one of the best big man rotations in the league. As for Nash, he's a great fast break pg, and that's what the Warriors are built for. The only thing that worries me is that Montgomery's Stanford teams were never known as high octane, fast break teams. Hopefully, he can change his style to one that suits a fast break team like the Warriors. It shouldn't be too hard, since Musselman was able to do it in his first year and he showed the following year that he's more of a half court, defensive-minded coach. One last thing...now most Warrior fans know this, but its worth mentioning again, Nash's agent is Brian Duffy, and Mullin and Duffy are close. If Nash has any apprehensions about playing for the Warriors, Duffy should be able to talk him into it. And while Nash is Canadian, he did play his college ball at Santa Clara, so it would be a home coming of sorts. I'd be ecstatic if this trade went down.
I would totally love it if that went down. I neglected to mention that Steve Nash is my favorite point guard. He's tall and quick. He's got the soccer player genes.
Nash is a "base year" guy. So he'd count about $6M toward the trade. But count on paying him about $12.5M, compared to Kidd and Marbury. Dallas is really high on Dampier, and is willing to give him some cash in a sign and trade, but I honestly think Nash is going nowhere. You are right, Nash would be great, but realize he'd have to agree to a sign and trade as well. He could just sign with Phoenix, or resign here in Dallas to stay with his buddy Dirk. Think Laetner and Josh Howard. Perhaps Najera or Bradley as a throwin.
I love the way you think walker. I almost think it will take more than that for this trade to work unfortunately.
No kidding. I guess Kobe is staying in LA. Why else would the Suns abandon the Kobe ship so soon. Now, I guess Pheonix will be going after Adonal Foyle.
Since they've got a young emerging Joe Johnson, I think the Nash signing (although, overpaying by about 5-10 million) is a smart move. On offense, it'll help all of the young guys' games by a measurable amount, it'll be a fun running game to watch, just like Dallas. Barbosa wasn't ready to start, his game is still a bit raw for a PG.
I don't think folyes going to stay for 3 million a year. Also I read on another message board that Orlando and Atlanta want him. I don't think Foyles coming back.
You can say that again. Maybe big Murph has bulked up some more and is ready to give it a whirl. Oh well, I guess there is always Okur and Blount.
Goodness Gracious, we might as well roll out the red carpet when the opposing team starts driving the lane and attacking the rim. We've got no blockers, we lost our biggest rebounder. This is not good. And big men are a commodity that won't sign for cheap or for the short term. Big men tend to get injured more frequently too so they want long guarantees.
The nice thing about Nash signing with Phoenix is that it probably eliminates them from being a realistic option for Okur. Nash's first year should cost the Suns about 10.8-11 mil, which drops Phoenix's cap space down to a little more than 5 mil, which is basically the MLE. Now I'm big on Okur, I'd rather have him than Foyle because he's a much better low post scorer than anyone else currently on the Warriors. If the Warriors could sign him for 6-6.5 mil for the first year, I think he'd be a great option. It would leave enough money to resign Cardinal and the Warriors would be able to let Damp walk. But, since this is a Dallas thread, why not toss out another Dallas trade possibility... Since Nash was probably the second most valuable piece Dallas had to make a trade for Shaq, the chance of a deal between those two teams is now even less likely. If they do shift their focus to Golden State, they can still make a deal, but the pieces are now different. Depending on how high Mullin is on Podkolzine, he could offer Damp and NVE for Walker, Laettner, and Podkolzine. The advantage for Dallas is they get a great center while only giving up Podkolzine. They also get NVE, who I think Dallas has probably missed a lot more than they let on. He'd also be a terrific insurance policy/mentor/eventual back up for Harris now that Nash is gone. Laettner would definately not be back with Dallas after next year and the same can probably be said of Walker. The advantage to the Warriors is they get to take a flyer on Podkolzine, essentially for free. Laettner is in the last year of his deal and the Warriors would probably waive him. Walker isn't a great fit in Oakland, but he's in the last year of his deal and would probably do much better on the Warriors where he'd be the clear #1 option on offense than he did on the Mavs where he was somewhere between the second and fifth option. Basically its a risk free deal for both teams because most of the players are in the last years of their deals. The more I think about it, the more I like this deal. Maybe even more than the Nash deal. If nothing else its certainly better (in my mind at least) than a Memphis deal that would net Swift and Battier, two guys that the Warriors don't need. Oh, and Damp would probably agree to it, he'd only be 400 miles away from his hometown Jackson, ms. Memphis and New Orleans are about the only two teams that are closer to his home town than that.
I think that's a great deal, and one that Mavs would certainly consider, since Donnie Walsh labeled Podkolzine only as a project and backup center. Dampier would fill their need at C and a healthy or even semi-healthy Van Exel would make Dallas feel a lot more comfortable without Nash. For the Warriors, it provides compensation in the present with a still-viable threat in Walker and also provides help in the future, with the potential of Pavel to grow into an NBA-caliber center. The sticking point to this trade would be having Van Exel healthy, which is a fairly big if, otherwise, they lose one of their biggest trading chips with Walker, who I'm sure is being shopped to many teams.
Either way you cut it, I would love to see Pavel here. I dont care if he is a project. He could be the next best thing since Shaq. I dont like the idea of Walker. I would rather cut him than Laetner just based on chemistry. I dont like the idea of Walker being a #1 option here. That just kind of sets us back 1 more year. Although he could be like Rasheed and find a home here if he leads us to the playoffs like he did for the celtics.
