Transgender first grader - Are you okay with it?

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    Parents of transgender first-grader file discrimination complaint

    I don't know how I feel about this. I understand that this nation is moving towards a very accepting lifestyle change; but I think allowing an 6 year old boy to go to a girl's bathroom doesn't sit well with me. I understand that many believe lifestyle, like transgender is considered genetic, but they still have male organs and I think it would confuse them more if they saw that their junk is much different than girls.

    Also, what about high school, when the boy now is mature and so are the girls? Does he get to shower in the girl locker room too?
     
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    I think its weird and I would be weirded out by it. I wouldn't really oppose the person in question being there, but I'd naturally be weirded out by it.
     
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    Like it or not, school isn't just about this person. It's about how they fit into the group. They may want to use the girls' bathroom, but how does it make other girls feel?

    The solution is simple: just have them use a private bathroom I'm sure is at the school.

    I get the larger argument: your psychology may not match your biology. However, it's not up to the school or the community to adjust to that condition, rather the individual. I feel sorry for this kid, but as a wise philosopher once said, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one.
     
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    IMO, until you are biologically a gender, you should continue using whatever bathroom facilities that you are biologically. You shouldn't be able to choose based on a whim.
     
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    I hate that the entire school, and all of it's teachers and students are forced to accept something because of one person. Like schools no longer being allowed to say the National Anthem before class, or unable to have the word Christmas in school because it has the word Christ in it.

    I feel bad for the young child, but I agree with Maxie on this. It should not be up to the school to conform, or the kids in it. It should be up to the family and child that identifies as a girl.


    really tough situation, but the school shouldn't be in any trouble for protecting the other students.

    So if my son wears a dress to school and says he is a girl now, should the school let him shower with the girls after gym?

    or now you will all call me captain because I identify with captain Kirk, and I am a starship captain?
     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I 100% agree with this
     
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    What, exactly, are they being "protected" from?

    So you're assuming this is just some whim on the part of the kid? And you know this because?

    Sure, why not? What's the harm?
     
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    I agree. Its okay to make the entire school uncomfortable because one child thinks he's a girl? I think this will open a huge can of worms if these parents win a lawsuit. I can see many parents suing schools for their 16 year old she/boy wanting to take showers with the gender he is more comfortable being.
     
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    Maybe the other girls that are uncomfortable taking a piss with a boy gendered kid?
     
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    1. Why?
    2. What part of your biology determines your gender? Have you heard of AIS, and other intersex conditions? Do they have to have separate bathrooms? Or what about people who are transitioning - do they have to have undergone full surgery to meet your important and not-at-all whimsical standards?

    I don't see why not, but even if I did, that's a total red herring because the original case has nothing to do with "whims".
     
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    Where to start.

    1. Perhaps you were unaware, but they don't have to share stalls.
    2. "Boy gendered kid" begs the question.
    3. Since when has "discomfort" come into it? Do racist kids get their own racially pure bathrooms?
     
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    Then make a "transgender" bathroom then.
     
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    Your sex organs. You can bring up statistical outliers for everything under the sun. But if you have a penis, go to the boys room. Vagina, go to the girls room. Its not that fucking hard. If you're a hermaphrodite, you can go to the bathroom in the teachers lounge.
     
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    1. You don't know "the entire school" is "uncomfortable".
    2. "Thinks he's a girl" is begging the question.

    Here: read this case and tell me what you think.
     
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    If you "identify" as a girl yet there's nothing to back it up except "because I said so". Then yes, it is on a whim.
     
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    Its easy for a man to see there being no problem with taking a piss with the opposite sex; but females are a bit more timid.

    As for your racial discomfort. Well, I don't see how this relates. A boy with a penis being in the same bathroom with girls is much different than taking a piss with a girl of different color. Sorry, that strawman doesn't work.
     
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    What's that got to do with urination or defecation? What are you worried will happen?
     
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    If 20% of the school is uncomfortable, it's a big deal.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    The parents should be arrested for child abuse.
     
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    How nice of you to speak for all "females".

    So it's a special kind of discomfort. The girls' magical "penis sense" will be going off as the kid sits urinating in the stall next door.
     

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