http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/bask...?coll=orl-magic Quote: Orlando Sentinel 'Well, in the ratings system developed by Jeff Sagarin and Wayne Winston, a player's value to his team is measured by more than mere points. Factored in are stuff such as chasing loose balls, taking charges and playing off-ball defense, intangibles overlooked by most traditional stats. Their 2003-04 rankings: 1. Turkoglu 2. Vince Carter. 3. Garnett. 4. Brad Miller. 5. Manu Ginobili. Sagarin is known as the father of USA Today's computer college-football ratings. Winston is an Indiana University professor and a past Jeopardy! champ. They were math whizzes years ago at MIT and combined their love of computers, statistics and sports. Cuban, the rebel owner of the Dallas Mavericks, was a student in Winston's math class at Indiana. When they ran into each other at a Mavs' game four years ago, Cuban asked Winston how his team could be improved. Winston had an epiphany while lounging at his Dallas hotel pool, and the "Winval" rankings system was born. It is modeled after hockey's plus-minus system, in which players are evaluated on how their team performs when they are on the ice.' This is a very interesting way to look at our recent acquisition of Turk. I've always thought he seemed to bring more to the game than what his stats indicate, and this seems to vindicate it.
I dont know what to think of Turkoglu. By all rights he should be an incredible player but so far he's been...not so great. He was lousy with the Spurs especially in the post season against the Lakers. Not so sure about that value system either. Vince Carter second???? Doesnt make any sense to me. Is that the second most valuable player in the league to their team or what? In any case Turkoglu was a great pick up for the Magic and hopefully he'll live up to his potential. If he does the Magic just might make it out of the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs although I doubt it.
