TWICE AS MANY Turn Out at DC Tea Party Rally Than Go See Obama in Berlin

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  1. Denny Crane

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    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...-tea-party-rally-than-go-see-obama-in-berlin/

    The Tea Party Patriots held their Audit The IRS Rally Wednesday on the West Lawn of the US Capitol. Speakers included: Sen. Rand Paul, Sen. Ted Cruz, Glenn Beck, Rep. Michele Bachmann, Jenny Beth Martin, Rep. Steve King, Rep. Dave Camp, Rep. Louie Gohmert, Rep. Jim Jordan, Rep. Tim Huelskamp, Dana Loesch, Jim Hoft, Niger Innis, etc. and several Tea Party Leaders.

    The Tea Party Patriots estimated between 10,000 and 15,000 supporters turned out for the rally.

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    Meanwhile, in Berlin today, the pool reporter said only 4,500 turned out for Barack Obama’s speech. In 2008 Barack Obama drew 200,000 to his rally there.

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  2. Denny Crane

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    I think there's two stories at play here.

    First is the decline of his popularity overseas.

    Second is the effectiveness, or lack thereof, of his trip there. He was there for a G8 summit, and hoped to get the Russkies to help meet our goals for Syria.
     
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    The attendees for the speech were invite only as the general public was not allowed to attend. For better or worse his approval rating in Europe is still pretty high, I think around 88% based on the NPR story I heard yesterday.
     
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    I guess Americans hate our leader more than Germans like foreign leaders.
     
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    The NYTimes says otherwise, ppilot.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/20/world/europe/president-obama-berlin.html?_r=0

    BERLIN — The last time President Obama paid a visit here, as a candidate in 2008, he was cheered on by 200,000 Germans eager to see the back of George W. Bush and, as one member of that crowd recalled Tuesday, “full of wholly unrealistic expectations of what kind of miracles Obama could work.”

    When he arrived here on Tuesday evening ahead of a full day of talks — capped by a speech at the Brandenburg Gate — the reception was far more restrained.

    Almost five years later, Germans have undergone “a brutal sobering up” with regard to Mr. Obama, said Ralf Fücks, who heads the board of the Heinrich Böll Foundation, a nonprofit political organization in Berlin. It is, he said, as overdone as the euphoria of 2008, but also a bit alarming.

    Mr. Fücks and other Germans say there are several reasons for the change in attitude. The most commonly cited: the president’s inability to close the prison at Guantánamo Bay, continued killings by American drones and, most recently, the disclosure of an extensive program for surveillance of foreigners.

    Experts also point to the limitations on the power of an American president and on a country like Germany, which is the dominant European power but whose 20th-century history makes it awkward for it to take a leadership role or guide the Continent out of its economic doldrums.

    “The American president would like to remind the Germans of the crisis, and what the consequences are if we keep sitting on our hands,” said Henning Riecke of the German Council on Foreign Relations.

    Mr. Fücks noted the “permanent state of crisis” in the world economy and politics since Mr. Obama took office in January 2009. When there is “constant pressure to act,” he said, it is harder for a president — or, for that matter, his host, Chancellor Angela Merkel — to shape events and lay down guidelines for sweeping action.

    On a broiling Wednesday, Berlin was unusually calm, with tourists and residents alike seeking welcome shade and apparently heeding the authorities’ pleas to avoid the center of town, heavily cordoned off in advance of the Brandenburg Gate speech. Offering a classic welcome from this history-scarred city to an American leader, the daily Berliner Morgenpost carried a front-page photo of the president, his wife and his daughters descending from Air Force One on Tuesday night below the English language headline “Welcome to Berlin, first family!”
     
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    And

    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/03/13/Obama-s-Approval-Ratings-Worldwide-Plummet-from-2009

    According to a new Gallup poll, by the time Barack Obama reached his fourth year in office in 2012, the world had grown far more disenchanted with American leadership.

    In 2009, 130 countries were polled, and the median approval level of United States leadership was 49%. That number dropped to 41% in 2012, which was approaching worldwide approval numbers posted for George W. Bush’s last two years of his presidency, when his numbers stood at 38% in 2007 and 34% in 2008.

    In Africa, Obama’s numbers dropped from 85% in 2009 to 70% in 2012; in the Americas the numbers plummeted from 53% to 40%. In Europe, the decrease was more sudden, running from 47% in 2009 to 45% in 2010 and 42% in 2011. In 2012, Obama's approval rating nosedived to 36% as the European economy started to tank.

    Countries such as France, Spain, and Sweden showed steep declines, as well as in countries where the economic crisis was the most brutal, like Hungary, Croatia, Macedonia, and Austria. Unsurprisingly, the lowest estimate of American leadership came from Russia.

    In Asia, the median approval numbers remained virtually unchanged.
     
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    Is that seriously his name? Lol, love it. Anyway I attribute this mostly to our general global standing as a country, the economic disaster of 2006, and the hope for a different direction. People thought Obama was different but they are realizing he is mostly just like every other president, a corporate pawn. Add this to recent developments of the NSA and its easy to see why others are ho hum about him, because for the most part so are we. To a large portion of the world we are the Evil Empire.
     
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    My hunch is simple. He was a rock star as a candidate. Something less as a guy in position to govern.
     
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    Denny Crane, giving valuable insight via linked articles since 2007
     
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    so since Denny's post is about how Europe doesn'jt like Obama, you're saying he's doing a good job?
     
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    You going to tell us those polled really meant to answer something else? That there's some nuance that makes their answers invalid?
     
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    FWIW, the press is busy writing about the turnout for his speech. It's a pretty big deal. What I posted is merely the background for what's going on.

    Here's Eugene Robinson, writer for the WaPost and frequent contributor to MSNBC:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vi...h_obama_for_not_ending_bush-era_policies.html

    I quote myself:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c326e8-d733-11e2-a016-92547bf094cc_story.html
     
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    No I'm going to tell you you're in the wrong thread :)
     
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    Ha! Well My opinion of Barrack hasn't wavered one bit. He is of course justifying it a little more as time goes on.
     

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