Two Muslims pulled off plane due to passengers feeling "uncomfortable"

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  1. TradeNurkicNow

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    Way to be, Tennessee.

    Maybe I should have complained that I was uncomfortable with the dude reading the book of Mormon on my last flight from Hawaii to Portland and got his ass kicked off the flight.

    http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/05/07/muslims.kicked.off.plane/index.html?hpt=T2
     
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    Hopefully, the people responsible for actually taking them off the plane are fired. Abusing your power based on the feelings of bigots = fireable offense.
     
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    If being a bigoted assclown is for you, try it next time! :)

    Though more to the point, try reading a Bible aloud in China. These guys just got kicked off a plane.
     
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    We should always model ourselves, in war, after what terrorists do to enemy combatants and, in social issues, what China does! :)
     
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    They were surely sufficiently groped beforehand, so I don't see why anyone has anything to fear. That's my view.

    However, how do you protect the airlines from loss of revenue if they're forced to allow anyone on board and the majority of their customers won't fly?
     
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    How were restaurant owners protected when segregation was lifted and a majority of white people no longer wanted to eat in restaurants because black people were there?

    The answer is: That never happened, because forgoing restaurants (and stores, etc) for the rest of one's life isn't really an option, and neither is not flying for the rest of one's life for most travelers today. Bigotry doesn't tend to prevent people from doing these things.
     
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    I'm sure a lot of them went out of business.
     
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    I'm sure that's nonsense.
     
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    Prove it is.

    And I'm sure it hurt black businesses, too.
     
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    You're the one who said that you were "sure" that ending segregation led to lots of restaurants closing. If you had proven that, that would be the end of it. As it stands, that doesn't seem logically credible, so that's where my surety comes in. Requesting negative proof (that lots of businesses DIDN'T close) is pretty silly, even for you. :)
     
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    If it were more than a few people speaking out about it, perhaps they wouldn't be ignored. Note the pro-Bin Laden protests around the world. Meanwhile, where are the thanks to the US from imams and governments of muslim countries? Crickets.

    The sad truth is, most imams and governments in muslim countries are afraid that their populace agrees with someone poking the eye of the West.
     
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    Right, because doing so would make those extremist elements magically disappear, and then ignorant Americans would become more tolerant in a flash!

    In regards to the article you posted: publicly reinterpreting the relevant Qur'anic verses that violent extremists cite in order to attempt some order of legitimacy will not make those extremists magically vanish. There are plenty of other verses in the Qur'an besides what Manji talked about that extremists cite for their cause. And there are tons more that dispute what the extremists do. Bottom line: it doesn't matter. Publicly denouncing won't make any difference.

    I've said it again and I'll say it again: Islamic terrorism is entirely rooted in class and power struggle. As long as each Middle Eastern country is ruled by despots who ignore the poor ranks of their population, groups like al-Qaida will have fresh bodies who are willing to blow themselves up. The majority of kids who join extremists groups aren't going to think twice about which Qur'anic verse justifies what he or she is about to do.

    And all of this has nothing to do with common Americans getting all their feelers in a tissy because some brown people on their plane are wearing funny clothes. As long as shit is blowing up, talk won't matter. 99% of Muslims could hold hands in solidarity against Islamic extremism, but that 1% will blow some shit up. the headline the next day? Muslims blow some shit up. And the day after that, some more people get pulled off a plane.
     
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    The state of public schools in inner cities is a pretty good indication of the economic effect.
     
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    which has......what to do with closed restaurants?
     
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    It really isn't since there were always restaurants for black people, they were just located in the inner city, in urban areas. What changed is that the "whites only" restaurants, which were largely not located in the inner city, had to start allowing black people. And nothing I've ever read suggests they got driven out of business because white customers had to be in the same building with black people, nor does it make any logical sense that they would.
     
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    We've been through this before, and we disagree. The "peaceful" religion of Islam has a cancer, and it's unwilling to undergo chemotherapy. Until then, Muslims are going to face bigotry.
     
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    A lot of the black businesses you describe ultimately are gone now. Most of the economic data is suspect because businesses and government want to put a good face ono things, regardless of how they truly are.

    S.H. Kress and Co. was a southern based (hundreds of stores) store chain with lunch counters that went out of business at the time of the Civil Rights Act.

    I don't believe in segregation or that it was a good thing. It would seem that the ideal environment for business would be to have everyone as your customer, not some subset. But the economics aren't that simple.
     
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    A lot of businesses are gone now. Businesses come and go in 50-60 years. But you were talking about businesses that were forced to "integrate" going out of business...like airlines allowing Muslims to fly and therefore going out of business. I tend to doubt any "whites only" businesses went out of business because they were forced to integrate.
     

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