OT Two police offers shot and killed in Kissimmee Florida

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  1. Cippy91

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    Responded to a call and shot. Also...

     
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    Very tragic. I'm hoping that this nation can get their head screwed on straight and soon.
     
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    Im just gonna start digging a hole and hide out. Ill know its over when the bombing noises cease....
     
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    Cops are killers, there are a lot of killers that are cops. Do you think cops are so innocent?
     
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    I'm not sure about he other tow shootings but the one focused In the article....

    Umm so this guy believes the kkk is infiltrating the police force. He then ambushes a couple of cops who happen to be black and Hispanic.
    Wouldn't the better option be to infiltrate the police force with minorities that understand the conditions we are in? But instead he kills two officers hat more than likely are on his side of things.

    I swear people are just losing it and following others that are losing it. I'm thinking of getting my concealed weapons permit. Not to carry all the time, but long road trips, etc...
     
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    Well shit it seems like in this case they were responding to a call and ambushed but hey if you wanna continue the idea that all cops are evil that's cool, spread the hate brother
     
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    No different than the Dallas shooting that happened. Then some shootings after that. People are crazy man and a lot of people love this behavior, they think all cops are the worst but these are the same people who couldn't step foot in a cops shoes for a day. They refuse to see sides
     
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    Man, See again with the generalizing thought process of sooo many.
    Yes.. there are some cops that are killers. acknowledged evil killers. Probably maybe 1% of all cops. Yes there are some racist cops. Probably between 5%-50% depending on your geographic location.
    But if we are ever to get through this, we have got to stop generalizing. Not all cops are killers. I know one first hand here. Guitar player in a locally successful and prominent regional metal band. Dude is cool as hell. White male.

    When I was too young to remember my age, but it was before school, I was in the backseat with my mother driving and she got pulled over. We didn't have our seat belts on but it wasn't yet a law. We are talking 76-77'? She had a boyfriend that was constantly F the police and spent half his life in Salem. We were on our way to see him if I remember correctly, though we turned around after....
    Anyhow, she was pulled over for a broken tail light and had a suspended license for an unpaid speeding ticket.
    She was gonna go to jail and I was gonna go... hell if I know.
    The cop saw the situation, and let her go with the promise that she would take me home and read me this short book/magazine he gave her.
    When we got home, she sat me down and read it to me. It had to do with wearing your seat belt and how important it was.
    I never forgot the book, the moment and the many social/society lessons learned. Young innocent minds can see the truth more often than our jaded adult minds.

    ohhh by the way....

    The cop was a black male.

    Right then I subconsciously knew I could never judge any group or any sect as a whole and its all about the individual. Whether they are left wing, right wing, cops, conservative, liberal, antifa, kkk, black lives matters, etc, etc, etc.

    There will always be ignorant and idiotic fools within any gathering containing some form of agenda, whether it be law enforcement, or belief of a way of life. But we still cannot judge them as a whole based off of the actions of a few. We can put pressure on them to condemn their own, but not all individuals in any group think exactly the same.

    It's really concerning how many people are so pro anarchy and want this to continue to spread until civil war breaks out.... But it wont be civil war, it will be total chaos, because it isn't red vs blue. There are several sects all with their own agendas, and then there will be the military/national guard.
    Unfortunately, our own freedoms may be the very death of us. Instead of respecting those freedoms we are all too often abusing those freedoms...(There is no law against being rude and cutting in line, so I can do it, etc.).
    Going to extremes and as lines of respect are being crossed all over the place and it almost always turns to violence. The lack of respect for the fellow American to have a different mindset within this plural society is gonna bring us all down. In the end, when push comes to shove, those of us who know history and what we were originally fighting for when our ancestors migrated here(not what they did after they arrived and won independence) we will fight for those same freedoms. If we don't have freedom of the press and freedom of speech we will dive into a dark time... very dark time...and i mean the world. not just America.
    We led the world in the idea of our governments providing full disclosure and the people have a say in what they do. Never before has the world seen such a successful government that wasn't a dictatorship of some form. These freedoms help us maintain knowledge of events and if the voices that feed them to us, whether jaded or not, are muffled... yeah. dark times indeed. Civil war with our enemies jumping on the bandwagon.
     
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    basically summed up as what I believe as well...

     
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    This is tragic. They have families and are feel pain just like you and me.
     
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    The good cops are in a really bad spot. Almost a no win situation other than they should help to call out the bad cops they know of. But other than that, man. What do you do and even doing that could have serious repercussions.
     
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    The problem is that Joe even spoke in stereotypes but what are they supposed to do? Every guy with a 65 Impala on 13inch rims isn't packing a concealed weapon. The percentage of people in that situation carrying would seem higher than the same situation using a brand new stock Hyundai Elantra.

    You're not supposed to think that way but if you're a cop it is a lot harder because your life depends on being aware of every situation.
     
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    Anyone of any race with a face tattoo is getting extra attention from me if I pull them over. Them's the breaks.
     
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    Yeah, the good cops (whom I have no doubts make up the vast majority of the force) need to call out the bad cops, and the police force in general needs to stop automatically closing ranks around any policeman or policewoman that comes under fire for a shooting or a framing. The vibe the police force gives off, IMO, is that every cop is innocent even before the facts are known. There needs to be real accountability and a real desire to drum out the bad cops as quickly as possible. After all, the bad cops are getting the good cops killed.
     
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    Yep, I wasn't a fan of the whole racial profiling argument in the early 90's was it? But it shouldn't be racially, it should be culturally profiling. If you chose to dress and hang with those, in areas of high crime, then you will be profiled as such. Black, White, Hispanic, etc. It's all about cultures. Within the gang and criminal world there is absolutely a culture of dress and behavior that should be profiled. No it wont keep a cop 100% safe and they may have it wrong once in a while, but as long as they treat all people with respect and just be aware of the individuals cultural behavior for safety concerns, I see nothing wrong with that.
     
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    Well I mean it's instinct right? they don't mean to racial profile I don't think but even you and I know the statistics coming out of southside chicago and it's like hey man, fuck that place I am not going there. Or maybe even Detroit or Baltimore. The statistics are very real and they reflect on the people there. Not saying everybody in those areas are bad but lets face it, most of them are raised in a shitty environment, we don't know what kind of anger they have, poor education, etc. Mostly black. That's not racism at that point, these are real numbers and real stereotypes. I don't agree with racial profiling but how do you not in a high crime area that is mostly black or latino? it's impossible. The issue is most normal people don't think this way. It's logic though. They wanna act like being a cop is so easy, well okay go do it. They wouldn't last a day in the bad areas, they would shit themselves. On top of that imagine having a family and kids whether you are a black or white cop because black cops are also endangered just for wearing that uniform. You wanna go home to your kids. If you are in a shit neighborhood, some guy reaches in his pocket when you tell him not to, sorry but I would probably drop him too. I am not taking this chance in 2017 where these two officers got called to a scene then ambushed or last year with the dallas officers. Fuck that I am going home to my family and I promise you anybody else in that scenario would do the same, but everybody is an expert now, "why didn't they just taze him". Well tazing somebody doesn't work all the time, I have seen it on video.. Unfortunately nobody wants to view the other side, it's just fuck cops and they are all racist pigs. That's wrong.
     
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    Sounds like the extreme sides of our political parties too huh? Holding the bad once around them accountable is what the parties need to do.
     
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    I agree with both of you but liberals want a fantasy land where every cop risks their life to be 100 percent fair. It ain't happening.
     
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