I can't know what happened. He seems to be way too strict obviously but what does that mean? He broke the kid's arm playing or disciplining him?
He denies any knowledge in how the kid's arm got broken. "... when the boy was asked about his injured arm, he replied: “Daddy did it.” Hill denied any role in what happened to the child, saying: “He says Daddy does a lot of things.” Espinal also tells Hill their son is “terrified of you.” Hill replies, “You need to be terrified of me, too, bitch.” Later, Espinal asks Hill, “What do you do when the child is bad? You make him open up his arms and you punch him in the chest.”
Heard all of that. Guy sounds like any other mean father. Then he gets baited in a recorded conversation. She knew what he was doing and might have joined in. I'm not saying he doesn't need counseling. He seems to have gone too far to the other extreme compared to other lazy "here's an Ipad leave me alone" parents.
Ill start out by saying i do not condone violence other than sport and self defense. I am also not trying to diminish potential child abuse. With that said, i grew up by way of the willow branch and paddles with holes drilled in them to allow for better welting. I grew up with fear and respect. Not fear of my stepfather, fear of not doing what he said and what he said to do/be, was on point. Dont lie Dont steal Treat others how you want to be treated. Etc... All the good moralistic values you look for in a productive contributor to society. Im not saying his way is the only way to instill these morals in our children and im not saying this way works for everyone. But i am saying that generations have been brought up on raising children with the fist to gain obedience, since the beginning of time. We shouldn't all of a sudden jump to hasty conclusions that those instilling all of these parenting techniques are now all of a sudden so horrible. Generational passings of behavior is extremely difficult to stop. There is no doubt hill needs help. But more than likely its counseling to help him look into his self and face probable issues of his past, to overcome them for a brighter future. Prison time alone will only perpetuate the behavior trying to be stemmed.
I just don't know that the guy is the monster people are making him out to be. I wish someone had whooped my ass for not doing my homework. I definitely don't condone unnecessary child abuse at all. That's a line that it really hard to define though. Did he cross it? Most likely. I just don't think the audio is that horrific. This is reason 1 why I don't have kids. I know my lack of discipline growing up would probably make me too strict. Raising children in this era has to be insanely difficult.
Thats one of the reasons i hold @dviss1 with high regard. We don't agree on many political fronts, but the man does a stellar job raising his son, as anyone who has been around them can bare witness. Being a single father in todays world... hard to fathom the difficulties. I have a couple other friends who are also single fathers with custody and they are struggling hard to keep their kids in line.
Don't have any kids but my assumption would be that each kid is different and you start off easy on them. My aunt would whoop my cousin's ass for shoplifting and he'd still do it. 10 years old and he didn't give a shit. She never found what worked on him. I was so afraid of stealing when HE did it I cried like a baby. Not even sure why because I was younger than him.
My father beat me with a belt when I was a tot. When I reached about the age of 12 he apologized and said that parents need to learn how to relate to and talk to their children when they see them misbehaving. My mother's cousin had a PhD in psychology and wrote a book on how to correct misbehavior in children without striking them. I'm a firm believer that parents ought to spend all the time they can in trying to get to know their children and directing them the right way. My dad? He was from rural Alabama where beating your children is the norm. Thank God he saw how wrong that was.
Discipline in my opinion is vital for kids, but I have a 3 year old, and the though of spreading her arms so I can punch her??? Nah man thats not happening. It is difficult to raise kids and always has been. The thing is Discipline with your kids has to come from a place of love or its just discipline for angers sake. If my kids are “terrified” of me then Im disciplining them when Im angry. I discipline all my kids, timeouts, taking things away sometimes if their being really bad I just pick them up and hold them til they calm down, as they get older I may have to come up with other things. I dont know enough about this case to know what Tyreke is, but I will say I sure hope my kids are never terrified of me because they think I’ll physically harm them. Especially at 3 years old...
If an NFL player (even a kicker) really punched a 3 year old in the chest.... A. The kid would have worse than a broken arm B. The mom would have to report this immediately.
Well, A.) We don't know how hard he "hits" him, but really that's poor parenting. B) The mom is obviously scared of Hill too. There are some weird things that people go through in abusive relationships, so I'm not sure if we can say B would happen.
Clearly I have no first hand knowledge of what happened. I honestly think that people hear this guy call her bro 50 times and say white people don't care about their kid and they get offended and act like he's Hitler. Trust me, hearing him say those things was like fingernails on a chalkboard to me.
So all 3 of my kids are completely different when it comes to what "works" when their behavior gets really bad, my oldest its time outs, she hates sitting still. The younger two couldn't care less if they were in time out they'll just sit there and sing to themselves. I can say from experience the only thing that my parents really did that actually corrected my behavior was when they spanked me, I was grounded for 3 months once and when it was over went straight to what I did to get me grounded, to begin with. It was never out of anger though, my dad would sit me down and talk to me and tell me he was going to spank me, why he was going to and that they had tried everything else. In my memory the first one was I was 8 and the last of the 4 times I was spanked was when I was 13. Now this is a different era and spanking at all isn't tolerated and he never even got remotely close to "hurting me", I don't spank my kids but the middle one is by far the hardest to discipline and I have definitely thought about it at times because sometimes I really just have no idea how to get her to change her behavior. For the record, my dad is one of my closest friends at this point. I see him basically every day and go for walks with him 5 days a week and I know he never wanted to hurt me, he just wanted me to stop being stupid. For a while, my wife and I actually had a list of all the different things we had tried to do to get her to listen it was at least 50 items, that girl, smh she got the stubbornness from my wifes' side heh. Anyways just because she had a PhD in psychology doesn't mean her method/s work in every situation and while I'd never condone hurting a kid, I also read a lot of stuff on parenting and understand that all situations are different.
I never misbehaved as a child, as my parents were awesome role models. You warned me the video was horrible, so I haven't watched it. I have not seen their child, so he could be big and scary. This leaves me with no opinion to contribute.
