Ultimate Game Breakdown: Players: Timberwolves 111 Nuggets 107 on Oct 19, Preseason

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  1. tremaine

    tremaine To Win, Be Like Fitz

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    This is much of what an Ultimate Game Breakdown-Players (UGB:P) is going to look like for the new season. It's a "just the important facts please, and give them to me quick" type of report.

    I will in many cases do a little commentary at the bottom of the UGB:Ps, but most of the game and team commentary will be in the separate "Game and Team Reports." Game and Team articles are, with any luck, going to be produced for 26 Nuggets and for 26 Raptors games this season. Ultimate Game Breakdowns: Players, such as the one here, will be done for the 26 key games, and for other games as well, but not necessarily for all 82 games. I don't really know how all this new editing is going to play out time wise yet!

    The games that get the full treatment have been very carefully chosen to be the most important games, which are generally the games against the best teams. Full treatment including the kitchen sink report games have been chosen from among only games where neither team is at a disadvantage due to playing on back to back nights. Other internet basketball "experts" are really wasting their time to some extent when they report on a game where one team was playing on back to back nights and the other team was not, because the great majority of those games are almost automatically won by the team that has more rest. I used to do those stupid games, but I'm not doing them anymore, because I keep trying to get better and better at understanding and teaching basketball, so I make changes such as this.

    With an Ultimate Game Breakdown-Players report, you can see very rapidly who was most responsible for the winning or the losing of the game. Then someone like me can easily write a separate game report which explains how things might have worked out better for a team, or why things worked out just about as well as possible, as the case may be.

    The Real Player Ratings formula has been very carefully and accurately tweaked again and is currently as follows:

    POSITIVE FACTORS
    Points 1.00 (at par)
    Number of 3-Pt FGs Made 1.00
    Number of 2-Pt FGs Made 0.60
    Number of FTs Made 0.00

    Assists 1.75

    Offensive Rebounds 1.15
    Defensive Rebounds 1.25
    Blocks 1.60
    Steals 2.10

    NEGATIVE FACTORS
    3-Pt FGs Missed -1.00
    2-Pt FGs Missed -0.85
    FTs Missed -0.85

    Turnovers -2.00
    Personal Fouls -0.80

    ACTUAL COMBINED AWARD OR PENALTY BY TYPE OF SHOT
    3-Pointer Made 4.00
    2-Pointer Made 2.60
    Free Throw Made 1.00
    3-Pointer Missed -1.00
    2-Pointer Missed -0.85
    Free Throw Missed -0.85

    ZERO POINTS: PERCENTAGES BELOW WHICH THERE IS A NEGATIVE NET RESULT
    3-Pointer 0 score % 0.200
    2-Pointer 0 score % 0.246
    1-Pointer 0 score % 0.459

    ASSISTS VERSUS TURNOVERS ZERO POINT
    Assist/Turnover Ratio That Yields 0 Net Points: 1.143

    NOTES ON HOW TO USE ULTIMATE GAME BREAKDOWN RPR/RPP REPORTS
    RPR game reports show for each player the RPR (Real Player Rating) which tells you how good a player did (the good things minus the bad things) out on the court per unit of time. The RPP (Real Player Production) report tells you how much in total (the sum of the of the good things minus the sum of the bad things) a player did out on the court.

    Many and maybe most sports watchers and an unknown but probably disturbingly large number of sports managers make the mistakes of exaggerating the importance of quantity and overlooking to some extent quality. These reports allow you to expand your horizons. These reports put quantity and quality side by side, which is extremely valuable, because both are roughly equally important in explaining accurately why and how the game turned out the way it did.

    Players who over many games consistently have higher RPR (quality) but lower RPP (quantity) results are in many cases not getting enough playing time. Players that over many games consistently have lower RPR (quality) but higher RPP (quantity) results are in many cases getting too much playing time.

    The exceptional cases are very often going to be players who are either truly outstanding defenders or truly bad defenders. This is because the one and only thing that is not counted, because it is impossible to calculate it, is the number of shots that a player prevents from being scores. Investigation has to date revealed that, apparently, no one has even attempted, for the NBA, rough estimates of the actual value of each player's defending, in terms of number or percentage of scores prevented, or in terms of number or percentage of possessions made worthless.

    Over the coming year, I am going to be working to see if it is possible to use some combination of advanced statistics that are tracked on certain internet sites as an accurate proxy for the number of shots and/or for the number of possessions ruined by a defender.

    Another exception. where it is really alright when it looks like a player is playing too much, will be if a team has a point guard who has many more turnovers than the average point guard has. Because the point guard is so important, a good coach has to play his best guard who can make plays at the position for a full set of minutes every game, pretty much regardless of how many turnovers that player makes. If you take out your designated point guard due to "too many turnovers," it's most often going to be sort of like cutting your foot off because you have a bad case of athletes foot!

    REAL PLAYER RATINGS
    DENVER QUALITY
    Smush Parker, PG 0.942
    Kenyon Martin, PF 0.923
    Anthony Carter, PG 0.870
    Carmelo Anthony, SF 0.779
    J.R. Smith, SG 0.713
    Nene Hilario, PF 0.683
    Linas Kleiza, SF 0.448
    Dahntay Jones, SG 0.342
    Renaldo Balkman, SF -0.011
    Chris Andersen, PF -0.055


    MINNESOTA QUALITY
    Randy Foye, PG 1.444
    Sebastian Telfair, PG 1.146
    Ryan Gomes, PF 1.048
    Kevin Ollie, PG 0.931
    Mike Miller, SG 0.879
    Craig Smith, PF 0.702
    Al Jefferson, PF 0.646
    Mark Madsen, PF 0.550
    Corey Brewer, SF 0.425
    Chris Richard, PF 0.200
    Rodney Carney, SF 0.150
    Kevin Love, F 0.041


    SCALE FOR RPR (QUALITY) RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
    Historic Superstar for this game 1.400 and more
    Superstar 1.050 to 1.399
    Star 0.800 to 1.050
    Outstanding 0.625 to 0.799
    Major Role Player 0.525 to 0.624
    Role Player 0.450 to 0.524
    Minor Role Player 0.400 to 0.449
    Very Minor Role Player or Very Important Defender 0.350 to 0.399
    Poor Game or Extremely Importand Defender 0.275 to 0.349
    Very Poor Game Regardless of Defending 0.200 to 0.274
    Disaster Game Regardless of Defending minus infinity to 0.199

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    REAL PLAYER PRODUCTION
    DENVER QUANTITY
    Anthony Carter, PG 30.45
    Kenyon Martin, PF 22.15
    Carmelo Anthony, SF 21.80
    J.R. Smith, SG 16.40
    Nene Hilario, PF 16.40
    Smush Parker, PG 12.25
    Linas Kleiza, SF 12.10
    Dahntay Jones, SG 6.15
    Renaldo Balkman, SF -0.25
    Chris Andersen, PF -1.10


    MINNESOTA QUANTITY
    Randy Foye, PG 39.00
    Ryan Gomes, PF 29.35
    Mike Miller, SG 25.50
    Craig Smith, PF 19.65
    Al Jefferson, PF 17.45
    Sebastian Telfair, PG 14.90
    Mark Madsen, PF 11.00
    Corey Brewer, SF 7.65
    Kevin Ollie, PG 7.45
    Rodney Carney, SF 2.85
    Chris Richard, PF 1.40
    Kevin Love, F 0.45


    SCALE FOR RPP (QUANTITY) RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
    FOR STARTING PLAYERS
    Happens only a few times a year in the NBA 40.0 and more
    Massive and Memorable Game 36.0 to 39.9
    Huge Game 32.0 to 35.9
    Very Big Game 28.0 to 31.9
    Big Game 24.0 to 27.9
    Typical Average Game 20.0 to 23.9
    Somewhat Below Average Game 16.0 to 19.9
    Way Below Average Game 12.0 to 15.9
    Bad Game 9.0 to 11.9
    Really Bad Game 5.0 to 8.9
    Total Disaster minus infinity to 4.9

    SCALE FOR RPP (QUANTITY) RATINGS FOR A SINGLE GAME
    FOR NON-STARTING PLAYERS
    Massive and Memorable Game 30.0 and more
    Huge Game 26.0 to 29.9
    Very Big Game 22.0 to 25.9
    Big Game 18.0 to 21.9
    Typical Non-Starter Game 12.0 to 17.9
    Below Average Even For a Non-Starter 9.0 to 11.9
    Way Below Average Even For a Non-Starter or Limited Minutes 6.0 to 8.9
    Bad Game Even for a Non-Starter or Very Limited Minutes 3.0 to 5.9
    Disaster: Nothing Much to Report minus infinity to 1.9

    THE HIGH QUALITY PLAYERS IN THIS GAME
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    TIMBERWOLVES OUTSTANDING QUALITY GAMES

    Historic Superstar During Minutes on the Court: Randy Foye
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    Superstar During Minutes on the Court: Sebastian Telfair
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    Superstar During Minutes on the Court: Ryan Gomes
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    Star During Minutes on the Court: Kevin Ollie
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    Star During Minutes on the Court: Mike Miller
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    OUTSTANDING QUALITY GAMES FOR THE NUGGETS

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    Star During Minutes on the Court: Smush Parker
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    Star During Minutes on the Court: Kenyon Martin
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    Star During Minutes on the Court: Anthony Carter
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    POWER PERFORMERS OF THIS GAME
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    TIMBERWOLVES POWER PERFORMERS

    T-WOLVES STARTERS POWER PERFORMERS
    Massive and Memorable Game: Randy Foye
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    Very Big Game: Ryan Gomes
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    Big Game: Mike Miller
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    T-WOLVES NON-STARTERS POWER PERFORMERS
    Big Game: Craig Smith
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    NUGGETS STARTERS POWER PERFORMERS

    Very Big Game: Anthony Carter
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    NUGGETS NON-STARTERS POWER PERFORMERS
    NONE partly because this was a preseason game and minutes were limited.

    Note: For the rundown of the best players and the power performers, I bump up or bump down, by one category, certain players, due to adjustments for defending, wherever such adjustments are obvious.

    COMMENTS
    Anthony Carter finally has a decent game after doing almost nothing the first four preseason games.

    Have you ever noticed that Nene is like a rare bird; you seldom spot him? Here he played 24 minutes, which is a lot of minutes for the Brazilian. Unless Nene is truly ready to play basketball this year, the Nuggets are going to be one of the worst teams in the League at the center position. And with the point guard position in a state of disarray, the Nuggets have big worries at the two most important positions in the game. Therefore, it would seem to be a safe prediction that the Nuggets will be unable to make the playoffs this year, no matter how much Kenyon Martin, JR Smith, Allen Iverson, and Carmelo Anthony try to make it happen.

    Minnesota in general and Randy Foye in particular clearly owned this game, though Denver kept it close to having a deeper team. The Timberwolves are, after all, still in the building mode. The Nuggets are in the tearing down mode, what with Camby and Najera gone and with Iverson rumored to be on his way out at the end of this year when his contract is over with.
     
  2. kyteless

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    Re: Ultimate Game Breakdown: Players: Timberwolves 111 Nuggets 107 on Oct 19, Preseas

    Honestly I thought Anthony Carter was done. Nice to see him produce.
     
  3. DynastYWarrioR6

    DynastYWarrioR6 JBB SmurfY

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    Re: Ultimate Game Breakdown: Players: Timberwolves 111 Nuggets 107 on Oct 19, Preseas

    Yeah I was surprised when I checked the boxscores...good for Denver that he isn't done yet.
     

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