USA Today: Could we be wrong about global warming?

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  1. Shooter

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    http://blogs.usatoday.com/sciencefair/2009/07/could-we-be-wrong-about-global-warming.html
     
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    Definitly we could be wrong. We have only got to monitor a very short period of earths history, and while our models are ok, we are quite a ways from accurate models. When I was in college I was making models of Ozone depletion over time. Every time I added a new factor, sometimes it would explain one thing, but break another explanation for another thing. That was fairly common. Now my models were probably not nearly as complex as most of the environmental models we are talking about here, but the premise is still the same.

    You have to be really careful about what you try to control in nature. Now all that being said, I still do not like pollution, and think what can be done about pollution, should be done if it can. Just because it's good not to shit in your own back yard, so to speak.
     
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    There is nothing in that blog that refutes climate change. They acknowledge that excess carbion dioxide in the atmosphere raises the average temperatures on the planet (the base theory of climate change or global warming or whatever you want to call it). The study just suggests there are other factors in play as well.

    This is like someone eating twinkies and donuts for lunch every day, then concluding that something other than twinkies could have played a factor in him gaining weight.
     
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    The USA Today?
     
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    Note when I made my comment I made it in general, not about the article itself.

    The problem with the article itself, is the guy has no reason to think what he thinks. He doesn't back up his theory with any reason. He says he comes to a conclusion that heat had to come from somewhere else during the history period of Earth, but no where in his talk or the article, does he say why he came to that conclusion.
     
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    It was the donuts don't you see? THE DONUTS!!!!!

    I mean really wants on the line here anyways? Habitability of the Earth? Why would that be importan...**whisper from lawyer**

    Oh right I guess that COULD impact profits. Maybe this is worth looking into.
     
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    But dude, the doughnuts were trans fat free. It couldn't have been the doughnuts! NOT THE DOUGHNUTS!! NOOOOOOOO!
     
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    "Climate change"? What happened to "Global Warming"? Did that expression go out of fashion about the time evidence started mounting against it? Heh, heh.

    It's becoming clearer all the time that the idea of global warming is a huge propoganda campaign cooked up on non-existent "evidence," and that's it's all a house of cards about to come tumbling down. Out in Iowa, they're having the coldest summer on record right now . . .

    But don't tell Al Gore! It might tarnish his Nobel Prize.
     
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    *edited* The original source is "Nature Geoscience," which is a well-respected journal in the field.
     
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    Even if the models are inaccurate, the 'propaganda' that was used to promote ideas to curb global warming is still a good thing. It doesn't hurt to raise awareness of what we are doing to the Earth.
     
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    Yeah, like the fact that he ate 15 hotdogs for dinner every night. Right before he went to bed.

    The hotdogs play the part of the sun in my analogy, as they are made up of stuff we just can't comprehend. Don't know what is in them or why nobody will tell us but they will make you fat faster than sugar coated bread any day.

    I don't have a link to back it up and don't know if they could even know for sure but I read somewhere that the temperatures on Mars were higher now.....must be those SUV's on earth that did that:crazy:

    It seems that scientists don't believe the suns output is changing the temps on Earth but there could be something in the energy from the sun that we can't even measure. Figure that out and these so called Milankovitch cycles and we might actually be able to keep our climate better for humans for a longer period. If we can figure out how to control the temps all the time we might live forever.

    I don't want no gosh danged ice age and I don't care if polar bears have to die to keep us alive. DON'T CARE.


    FUCK THE TEMPERATURE (within reason)

    Maybe we could actually really clean up our environment and not just keep polluting all we like while pretending that those horrible cars are doing all this. People worry about running out of oil, yet they want to stop using it. If you don't want to use it why do you care if the Earth doesn't have any?

    Maybe we could keep from letting chemicals and medicines pollute our water. I will take 5 more degrees and higher ocean levels and an otherwise clean world any day of the week. It was about 116 here in Vegas today and muggy and not much worse than it is when it is 105.

    whoopty dooooooo
     
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    We're doing lots of things to the earth, but changing global temperatures is not one of them.
     
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    OddEnormous I'M FLYING!! I'M FLYING!!

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    Except for in the very article YOU posted.

    You aren't very bright are you?

    I'm glad you're on the right. Makes me proud.
     
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    The only people who say global warming is a farce are non-scientists and, more often than not, politicos with agendas. Anyone with a solid scientific background has been convinced for the last 15 years.
     
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    "hey everyone, i don't think before i post and i hate that liberal media, it's always biased except for the times i say it's not, then it's right... ok party on, i'm going to go back to doing what i do every day, wasting time in front of my computer at home, with no job, or friends, or education. peace, i'm out."


    (pause for my dashing caped crusader to come to my rescue)



    and scene.
     
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    "Propaganda" is an evil tool used only by commies, socialists and democrats.

    However, we really do not know how much global warming there is, and if so, how much is directly attributed to our earthly habits. Skip the propaganda, it's enough for me to be aware of what the potential carbon has and for us to live conservatively with respect to what potential effects we may be causing. I'm a moderate and have been living green for 30 years just because it was the right thing to do- not because of scare tactics from the left.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Either this is sarcasm or it wins the Irony Award for the month.
     
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    And which one do you think it is?
     
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    Well, at this point, it's clear that in the past 11 years that CO2 levels rising don't cause temperatures to rise in accordance with them.

    Who is "we"? There are plenty of people who think man-made global warming is a political argument and not a scientific argument.
     

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