<span class="Estilo40"></span><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Anderson Varejao has received a $2 million offer from Khimki Moscow and a Greek team, but he's just thinking about returning to Spain. Sport</div></p> I'm not sure of the implications of this. Does this mean when he returns he would won't be a restricted FA? Does this give him the potential to make more short term money while still being able to return to the NBA on his terms? Or does the QO (qualifying offer) mean they can match later?</p> -Petey</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> </div></p> Money? Lack of offers?</p> -Petey</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> </div></p> Money? Lack of offers?</p> -Petey</p> </p> </div></p> Or just terrible barganing on his behalf. He will play under the QO this season and get a nice contract in the summer.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> </div></p> Negotiating ploy.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> </div></p> Negotiating ploy.</p> </p> </div></p> Exactly. Varejao, Pavlovic, AK47... they won't leave the NBA, where they'll make more money. Kirilenko can say whatever he wants, he's not turning down $63 million. Sasha didn't "suddenly" turn his game up a notch just to go back overseas, he did it to make more money this summer. Varejao loves Cleveland, LeBron will talk him into staying if he is even having serious thoughts about it.</p> Oh, and Stephon Marbury leaving the NBA to play overseas? Now, that's a good one.</p> </p>
Is anyone able to clarify the QO ramifications?</p> If he goes to Europe for a year, comes back do the Cavs have the right to match an offer? If not, he can make more money playing overseas for a season.</p> -Petey</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> </div></p> Negotiating ploy.</p> </p> </div></p> I think these guys need some new legal representation if they are receiving advice that these statements would benefit them.</p> </p>
[quote name='Petey']</p> Is anyone able to clarify the QO ramifications?</p> If he goes to Europe for a year, comes back do the Cavs have the right to match an offer? If not, he can make more money playing overseas for a season.</p> -Petey</p> [/QUOTE]</p> He can make more money this season if he chooses to play in Spain as opposed to taking the QO. His QO is $1.2 million, he could probably make betwen 2-3 playing in Spain this summer. However, he will still cash in and eventually be overpaid by an NBA team (Cleveland or not), and sign a bigger deal here than he would if he ended up signing a multi-year deal overseas.</p> [quote name='TucsonClip']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='CelticKing']</p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Negotiating ploy.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> I think these guys need some new legal representation if they are receiving advice that these statements would benefit them.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> Why do you say that. How do these offers not help them? It scares NBA GM's, and they will be more willing to spend extra money to retain them.</p>
[quote name='CelticBalla32']</p> [quote name='Petey']</p> Is anyone able to clarify the QO ramifications?</p> If he goes to Europe for a year, comes back do the Cavs have the right to match an offer? If not, he can make more money playing overseas for a season.</p> -Petey</p> [/QUOTE]</p> He can make more money this season if he chooses to play in Spain as opposed to taking the QO. His QO is $1.2 million, he could probably make betwen 2-3 playing in Spain this summer. However, he will still cash in and eventually be overpaid by an NBA team (Cleveland or not), and sign a bigger deal here than he would if he ended up signing a multi-year deal overseas.</p> [quote name='TucsonClip']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='CelticKing']</p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Negotiating ploy.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> I think these guys need some new legal representation if they are receiving advice that these statements would benefit them.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> Why do you say that. How do these offers not help them? It scares NBA GM's, and they will be more willing to spend extra money to retain them.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> So a NBA GM is going to be scared by the fact that a player might want to play overseas instead of in the NBA? Obviously the Cavs dont think AV is worth the money he think he is worth and most of the NBA must feel the same way, because nobody has even extended an offer sheet to him. If its between AV taking whatever the Cavs are willing to pay him (6 mil or so per) and going overseas do you really think AV is going to turn down at least 6 mil per from an NBA franchisein order to play in Spain? I dont.</p>
[quote name='TucsonClip']</p> [quote name='CelticBalla32']</p> [quote name='Petey']</p> Is anyone able to clarify the QO ramifications?</p> If he goes to Europe for a year, comes back do the Cavs have the right to match an offer? If not, he can make more money playing overseas for a season.</p> -Petey</p> [/QUOTE]</p> He can make more money this season if he chooses to play in Spain as opposed to taking the QO. His QO is $1.2 million, he could probably make betwen 2-3 playing in Spain this summer. However, he will still cash in and eventually be overpaid by an NBA team (Cleveland or not), and sign a bigger deal here than he would if he ended up signing a multi-year deal overseas.</p> [quote name='TucsonClip']</p> [quote name='ghoti']</p> [quote name='CelticKing']</p> Whats up with all the players wanting to go to europe?</p> [/QUOTE]</p> Negotiating ploy.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> I think these guys need some new legal representation if they are receiving advice that these statements would benefit them.</p> </p> [/QUOTE]</p> Why do you say that. How do these offers not help them? It scares NBA GM's, and they will be more willing to spend extra money to retain them.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> So a NBA GM is going to be scared by the fact that a player might want to play overseas instead of in the NBA? Obviously the Cavs dont think AV is worth the money he think he is worth and most of the NBA must feel the same way, because nobody has even extended an offer sheet to him. If its between AV taking whatever the Cavs are willing to pay him (6 mil or so per) and going overseas do you really think AV is going to turn down at least 6 mil per from an NBA franchisein order to play in Spain? I dont.</p> [/QUOTE]</p> This same tactic worked for Charlie Bell.</p> Nobody signed him to an offer sheet because they knew the Bucks would match.</p> He didn't threaten to return to Europe, but he did say he wouldn't play for the Bucks.</p> This prompted the Heat to give it a shot and sign him, thinking maybe the Bucks were stupid enough to believe these negotiating tactics were real and this "rift" between Bell and management could not be repaired.</p> Of course, the Bucks were forced to match and Bell got a decent contract.</p> </p> </p>
http://www.nbpa.com/cba_articles/article-XI.php</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>(ii) If a Qualifying Offer is neither withdrawn nor accepted and the deadline for accepting it passes, the Team’s Right of First Refusal shall continue, subject to Section 5(a) below.</div></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><a name="section5" id="Section5">Section 5. Restricted Free Agency.</a> (a) If a Restricted Free Agent does not sign an Offer Sheet with any Team by March 1 of the Season for which the Qualifying Offer is made, and does not sign a Player Contract with the ROFR Team before that Season ends, then his ROFR Team may reassert its Right of First Refusal for the following Season by extending another Qualifying Offer (on the same terms as the prior Qualifying Offer) on or before the next June 30. A ROFR Team may continue to reassert its Right of First Refusal by following the foregoing procedure in each subsequent year in which that Restricted Free Agent does not sign an Offer Sheet with any Team by March 1 of the Season for which the Qualifying Offer is made, and does not sign a Player Contract with the ROFR Team before that Season ends. In each Season in which a Team reasserts its Right of First Refusal by extending another Qualifying Offer in accordance with this Section 5(a), the Team may also elect to simultaneously provide the player with a Maximum Qualifying Offer (on the same terms as the prior Maximum Qualifying Offer). Any such Qualifying Offer and Maximum Qualifying Offer shall be governed by the provisions of Section 4 above.</div></p>
