Vince Speaks About his Future (Articles and Video included)

Well Vince is back! He has shed some light on some things. Reports of him being unhappy as Toronto Raptor is not from him. BUT he would not comment on the issue of him demanding a trade. He simply said " i don't want to get into it right now". Check it out http://www.sportsnet.ca/nba/article.jsp?co...719_135830_3140

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At last... Something from Vince himself.

 

You don't find anything odd about a denial that he's not the source of the "unhappiness talk", but then wouldn't comment on his future with the team or the report that he asked to be traded?

Normally, when a players make contradictory statements like this, they have been instructed to do so by thier agents so that they don't appear to be malcontents to the fanbase of thier new team.

Just a thought, I'm not suggesting he's going anywhere.

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">At last... Something from Vince himself.</div>

Technically, that article had no author or source mentioning that this came directly from VC. He may have said it, but that source provides no direct evidence that it came straight from VC.

 

Although their is not a direct source, Vince did say that though, because the media was there. He's in TO for his kids basketball camp.

 

All those article writers should feel ashamed. Those loads of articles are simply lame because of a few words from Vince's mouth

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Although their is not a direct source, Vince did say that though, because the media was there. He's in TO for his kids basketball camp.</div>

Yeah, I'm sure he said it. I believe that part. It's just a sticking point with me that it's somewhat irresponsible journalism to not provide a name when quoting somone. It's not like this was most likely said in private, as a confidential source type deal. It was probably said in front of a lot of people, which annoys me that no one would step up and take proper credit for issuing the remarks on the site. It only makes the overall issue worse, IMO.

I guess that's just a rant on one of many things I think are wrong with our journalist society, but I won't drag the thread any more off topic by ranting about it.

 

http://www.canada.com/sports/basketball/st...6D-1AA3BC92148C
here's a better read..

 

hmmm...seems like vince prolly does want a trade. if he didnt, why wouldnt he just dismiss the rumors right then and there

the "right time" to talk about it, is prolly after he's sold out his charity ASG. if he asked outright for a trade now, he'd get booed at his own ASG.

then again, he's said before "i dont want to talk about that right now" like in the case of coach o'neil. then he later dismissed the rumors that he and coach didnt get along, and that he wanted him fired.

have to see what happens...that article is pretty much useless. sure vince is talking, but hes not saying anything

 

that camp was at my school and i didn't see any media. thought i would say that as some food for thought

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">http://www.canada.com/sports/basketball/st...6D-1AA3BC92148C
here's a better read..</div>

lol...what are you talkin about? its the EXACT same article word for word

 

I agree exactly withwhat premium plus just said.

 

u guys treat him like some GOD or something, he's back in TO and so what? get off your knees and get yourselves some self-respect. in your lifetime there will be many players as talented or more talented than vince. i'm tired of his act, i would trade him for the right deal if it presents itself.

 

^Well out of all the trade scenarios you have seen, which one do you like? The one which gives us Kurt Thomas, Dikembe and Shandon Anderson? Obviously a deal would have been done if someone actually offered something worth listening to. Vince's value is a double edged sword: He is talented enough to be considered a franchise player but injuries and bad press has forced all teams to undervalue him.

You don't realize how tough it would be to move Vince and his humongous contract and get fair value for him as a player. And don't even bother bringing up Stromile Swift and Earl Watson for VC. Do you think the owners would want to give up VC for nothing? Do you know how much cash he makes the Raptors in revenue each year? Get rid of Vince and your financials go down if you don't get a marquee player to replace him.

Furthermore, You are in complete denial over how good a player he is that you tend to bash him at every chance you get. There is a whole lot of player hating going on over there and that is something you got to work out. The Raptors forum has plenty of intelligent posters who are unbiased enough to know what makes a good player.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">^Well out of all the trade scenarios you have seen, which one do you like? The one which gives us Kurt Thomas, Dikembe and Shandon Anderson? Obviously a deal would have been done if someone actually offered something worth listening to. Vince's value is a double edged sword: He is talented enough to be considered a franchise player but injuries and bad press has forced all teams to undervalue him.

You don't realize how tough it would be to move Vince and his humongous contract and get fair value for it. And don't even bother bringing up Stromile Swift and Earl Watson for VC. Do you think the owners would want to give up VC for nothing? Do you know how much cash he makes the Raptors in revenue each year? Get rid of Vince and your financials go down if you don't get a marquee player to replace him.

Furthermore, You are in complete denial over how good a player he is that you tend to bash him at every chance you get. There is a whole lot of player hating going on over there and that is something you got to work out. The Raptors forum has plenty of intelligent posters who are unbiased enough to know what makes a good player.</div>


i've had to explain things to u over and over again. the raptors revenue intake is largely predicated on the joint package that mlse has with the leafs. if u live in the gta u know that there is an insatiable demand for leafs tickets, a demand that cannot be adequately satisfied. so mlse being the shrewd business people they are have symbiotically linked leafs season tickets to purchasing raptors tickets. in other words, to buy leafs season tickets u need to purchase tickets to a certain number of raptor games, i don't know the exact number. to be honest wade belak sells more raptors tickets than vince, no exaggeration.

moreover, i think u have condescending view of t.o basketball fans, there are a lot more than u think and they prefer winning over vince. in six years he has got us to the second round once, is that greatness? espn even proclaimed him the most overrated athlete in the world. "player hatin"? i beg to differ, i just like dudes that care about the game.

and btw, watson, wells and swift for vince and donyell would turnaround the raptor franchise.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">u guys treat him like some GOD or something, he's back in TO and so what? get off your knees and get yourselves some self-respect. in your lifetime there will be many players as talented or more talented than vince. i'm tired of his act, i would trade him for the right deal if it presents itself.</div>

i hardly treat vince like god, and dont generalize all of "us" because of what a few over-zealous fans say.

besides...the hate on that you have for vince is pretty over the top. he's not nearly as bad as you make him out to be

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">i hardly treat vince like god, and dont generalize all of "us" because of what a few over-zealous fans say.

besides...the hate on that you have for vince is pretty over the top. he's not nearly as bad as you make him out to be</div>

he has innate athletic abilites that will allow him to excel and he's a smart basketball player. however, the dude is fake and lacks the desire or the will to apply his talents on the game with any regularity. raptor management should consider trading him for value before he becomes penny.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">i've had to explain things to u over and over again. the raptors revenue intake is largely predicated on the joint package that mlse has with the leafs. if u live in the gta u know that there is an insatiable demand for leafs tickets, a demand that cannot be adequately satisfied. so mlse being the shrewd business people they are have symbiotically linked leafs season tickets to purchasing raptors tickets. in other words, to buy leafs season tickets u need to purchase tickets to a certain number of raptor games, i don't know the exact number. to be honest wade belak sells more raptors tickets than vince, no exaggeration. </div>Explain things to me? Maybe I should let you in on a little secret in the NBA....ticket sales are not the only source of income they have. You fail to mention merchandising, promotions and advertisments, and TV deals (huge amount of income comes from here). And to say that Wade Belak sells more Raptors tickets than Vince is overstating it a little don't you think? Talk about your overblown exaggerations. Bottom line is: If you can tell me that Vince does not affect any of those sources of income I just stated (Tickets, TV, merchandising, ads, promotions not to mention the fan worship he has across Canada and the world), I can honestly say that you are a bald faced lyer. Feschuk anyone??

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">moreover, i think u have condescending view of t.o basketball fans, there are a lot more than u think and they prefer winning over vince. in six years he has got us to the second round once, is that greatness? espn even proclaimed him the most overrated athlete in the world. "player hatin"? i beg to differ, i just like dudes that care about the game.</div>I have a condesceding view of T.O. fans? Why, because I just stated that we cannot get fair value for Vince in any trade? As I stated before, unless we get more than a few role players to fill up his spot and his contract we can't trade him. It would have to take another marquee player or some good young talent (and when I say good talent I mean Lottery good) to fill up his spot on the Raptors.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">and btw, watson, wells and swift for vince and donyell would turnaround the raptor franchise.</div>It would. Instead of being a prosperous franchise with a chance of winning the atlantic it would turn us into a team playing for the 1st pick in next years draft.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">Explain things to me? Maybe I should let you in on a little secret in the NBA....ticket sales are not the only source of income they have. You fail to mention merchandising, promotions and advertisments, and TV deals (huge amount of income comes from here). And to say that Wade Belak sells more Raptors tickets than Vince is overstating it a little don't you think? Talk about your overblown exaggerations. Bottom line is: If you can tell me that Vince does not affect any of those sources of income I just stated (Tickets, TV, merchandising, ads, promotions not to mention the fan worship he has across Canada and the world), I can honestly say that you are a bald faced lyer. Feschuk anyone??

I have a condesceding view of T.O. fans? Why, because I just stated that we cannot get fair value for Vince in any trade? As I stated before, unless we get more than a few role players to fill up his spot and his contract we can't trade him. It would have to take another marquee player or some good young talent (and when I say good talent I mean Lottery good) to fill up his spot on the Raptors.

It would. Instead of being a prosperous franchise with a chance of winning the atlantic it would turn us into a team playing for the 1st pick in next years draft. </div>


explain this to me, how come i see more jyd jersey's than vince jersey's in the city? well, I can?t quantify that but that?s just my observation. as for me, i wouldn?t get caught dead in a vince jersey. and let me give u a history lesson, damon stoudamire was by far the most popular basketball player ever in the city, vince's appeal lasted for 3 years then the injuries undermined his burgeoning popularity.

liar, no. feschuck=me, no again.

stars come and go, t.o basketball fans understand that. vince is so trendy, today he's out of style maybe when fall comes along he might be back in style

and i revised the trade with memphis, check the memphis forum for more details.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">explain this to me, how come i see more jyd jersey's than vince jersey's in the city? well, I can?t quantify that but that?s just my observation. as for me, i wouldn?t get caught dead in a vince jersey. and let me give u a history lesson, damon stoudamire was by far the most popular basketball player ever in the city, vince's appeal lasted for 3 years then the injuries undermined his burgeoning popularity. </div>You have got to be kidding me right? Damon's popularity doesn't hold a candle to Vince in any way shape or form. Also correct me if I'm wrong but he was the leading vote getter for the all star game last year right? That alone speaks volumes about his popularity.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">liar, no. feschuck=me, no again.</div>I find it really interesting how no one agrees with any of the points you make but yet you still think you are right. We can't ALL be Vince Carter jockriders.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">stars come and go, t.o basketball fans understand that. vince is so trendy, today he's out of style maybe when fall comes along he might be back in style </div>Uh okay...I guess he's out of style right now and his style could come back later? WE ain't talkin about clothing.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">and i revised the trade with memphis, check the memphis forum for more details.</div>What is the point of commenting on a trade that will never happen?

 

Listen Deception buddy, I always like to avoid the "Vince is overrated" disscusion, espicialley with people like you because it ain't gonna do me nor you any good.

But two of your comments really made laugh out loud:

1) "There are more J.Y.D jersies around the city than Carter's"
2) "Damon is/was more popular than Vince"

You really got it goin' man.