<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p> First, Dwyane Wade was having to Shaquille O'Neal straight. The Big Fella took it, sort of, and Heat went on. But that's hardly the big picture, nor the limit of Wade's discontent. From The Chicago Tribune:</p> <blockquote> Intimates say Wade has been none too happy with the direction of the team, and the belief is Riley is trying desperately to assuage Wade's concerns, with Wade in the first season of his short extension. He can leave as a free agent after the 2009-10 season. </blockquote> I know this is Sam Smith, and he's hardly a font of reliable information. But before you accuse me, take a look at Miami: Why would Dwyane Wade be happy? At least LeBron James has a crappy team around him that hustle on defense and hits the boards. Oh, and isn't already applying for their pensions. The problem here isn't Shaq now saying "I'm doing it my way from now on," or Ricky Davis waving off Pat Riley in the midst of the chaos. It's that, if you're Dwyane Wade, there's less and less compelling reason to stick around Miami. This team's been run into the ground, and has nothing to offer but age and the elevated expectations that come with having already hoisted up a banner. Wade has no Kobe Bryant-like desire to prove he can win away from Shaq. However, winning with Shaq just isn't an option anymore. Teams lacking in long-term direction could do far worse than to gear up for a run at Wade.</div></p> http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse/2007/11/19/...appy-with-heat/</p> Not sure what it would take to get a trade done, but Wade would look really good with Gordon/Nocioni. If Wade demands a trade, and they trade him, they will have to go out and trade Shaq too, and build around what they get for those two guys (which might not be too bad of a thing).</p> We'd have to give up lots of players.</p> Something like:</p> Bulls Receive: Dwyane Wade Mark Blount Daquen Cook Joel Anthony</p> Heat Receive:</p> Luol Deng Kirk Hinrich Chris Duhon Viktar Khryapa Joakim Noah Thabo Sefolosha 2 First Round Draft Picks</p> Third Team Receives:</p> Udonis Haslem</p> So that would effectively give the Bulls</p> PG-Dwyane Wade/JamesOn Curry SG-Ben Gordon/Thomas Gardner SF-Andres Nocioni/Adrian Griffin PF-Tyrus Thomas/Joe Smith C- Ben Wallace/Mark Blount</p> Then the Heat do a trade like Shaq for Jamison and Young</p> They just go and try to tank out the rest of the year.</p> Going into next offseason, their long term assets are:</p> Kirk Hinrich (10 million), Luol Deng (unsigned), Thabo Sefolosha (1.9 million), Joakim Noah (2.3 million), Nick Young (1.6 million), Dorell Wright (unsigned).</p> So that is 15.6 million in garaunteed money to players. About 4 million garaunteed to the draft picks. About 14 million to Deng/Wright.</p> So that is 33.6 million attributed to players. So they are looking at about 25 million in cap space.</p> Of course, this is all unlikely to happen, and Wade will end up staying in Miami.</p> If the Heat were smart, they'd pull the Shaq for Jamison trade, then look to unload Blount with something else and then go into next offseason looking to sign some free agents to play around Wade.</p> </p>
whatsup with everyday you having a new theory on how teh bulls need to acquire and trade away half their franchise. How about you give Tyrus Thomas and Joakim Noah a chance and let teh Bulls continue to start slow and tehn pick it up mid season like they always do. Dwayne Wade couldn;t hit a three pointer if his life depended on it! All he does is drive and get hurt. Gordon needs to start driving and Hinrich needs to understand his role. If anything the Bulls should have got Garnett when they had teh chance, because the bulls have enough mid range shooters with not enough moxi.</p>
No way the Heat can trade Shaq I doubt anyone wants him. As for Wade, the problem is Pat Riley. Riley's bringing down that team, and because he's also the GM he's not going anywhere unless the Heat owner steps in (i'm pretty sure Riley isn't gonna fire himself). I wouldn't blame Wade for leaving if things continue like this. I'm just trying to picture a FA class with both D-Wade and LeBron and the coverage that would get.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> No way the Heat can trade Shaq I doubt anyone wants him. As for Wade, the problem is Pat Riley. Riley's bringing down that team, and because he's also the GM he's not going anywhere unless the Heat owner steps in (i'm pretty sure Riley isn't gonna fire himself). I wouldn't blame Wade for leaving if things continue like this. I'm just trying to picture a FA class with both D-Wade and LeBron and the coverage that would get.</p> </div></p> Riley chose short term success over building for the future. He won a title so I'd say he made the right decision. Boston has taken a similar approach this year, they traded away their future to win now.</p> Losing creates a lot of headaches, but Riley has positioned this team to retool once again next summer. They have $21M in cap space and will be one of the few teams with money next summer in what could be one of the deepest free agent pools ever. You have several players with option years the Heat can go after. Arenas, Brand, Maggette, Jermaine O'Neal, Baron Davis, Ron Artest to name just a few. The Shaq-Wade duo is still enough to attract free agents to jump on board for a title run. Now Miami will have the finances as well. I'm sure they'll get someone young enough to also team up with Wade post-Shaq era.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shapecity)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> Riley chose short term success over building for the future. He won a title so I'd say he made the right decision. Boston has taken a similar approach this year, they traded away their future to win now.</div></p> That's not what i'm disagreeing with, I just don't like the way he's handling/coaching the present team</p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Losing creates a lot of headaches, but Riley has positioned this team to retool once again next summer. They have $21M in cap space and will be one of the few teams with money next summer in what could be one of the deepest free agent pools ever. You have several players with option years the Heat can go after. Arenas, Brand, Maggette, Jermaine O'Neal, Baron Davis, Ron Artest to name just a few. The Shaq-Wade duo is still enough to attract free agents to jump on board for a title run. Now Miami will have the finances as well. I'm sure they'll get someone young enough to also team up with Wade post-Shaq era.</div></p> didn't know all that =/</p>
I do not like the trade..Deng AND Hinrich? No. I wouldn't mind having D Wade, but that is just a bad deal.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shapecity)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> No way the Heat can trade Shaq I doubt anyone wants him. As for Wade, the problem is Pat Riley. Riley's bringing down that team, and because he's also the GM he's not going anywhere unless the Heat owner steps in (i'm pretty sure Riley isn't gonna fire himself). I wouldn't blame Wade for leaving if things continue like this. I'm just trying to picture a FA class with both D-Wade and LeBron and the coverage that would get.</p> </div></p> Riley chose short term success over building for the future. He won a title so I'd say he made the right decision. Boston has taken a similar approach this year, they traded away their future to win now.</p> Losing creates a lot of headaches, but Riley has positioned this team to retool once again next summer. They have $21M in cap space and will be one of the few teams with money next summer in what could be one of the deepest free agent pools ever. You have several players with option years the Heat can go after. Arenas, Brand, Maggette, Jermaine O'Neal, Baron Davis, Ron Artest to name just a few. The Shaq-Wade duo is still enough to attract free agents to jump on board for a title run. Now Miami will have the finances as well. I'm sure they'll get someone young enough to also team up with Wade post-Shaq era.</div></p> Err... I don't think this is the case. Shaq, Wade, Blount and Haslem are all under contract for 08-09 and 09-10 and are owed close to $50M just between the 4 of them. The salary cap is only $55M, so they aren't anywhere close.</p> </p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (23MJordan23)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I do not like the trade..Deng AND Hinrich? No. I wouldn't mind having D Wade, but that is just a bad deal.</p> </div></p> Wow. Are you serious? Those two won't even get Wade.</p> </p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shapecity)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> No way the Heat can trade Shaq I doubt anyone wants him. As for Wade, the problem is Pat Riley. Riley's bringing down that team, and because he's also the GM he's not going anywhere unless the Heat owner steps in (i'm pretty sure Riley isn't gonna fire himself). I wouldn't blame Wade for leaving if things continue like this. I'm just trying to picture a FA class with both D-Wade and LeBron and the coverage that would get.</p> </div></p> Riley chose short term success over building for the future. He won a title so I'd say he made the right decision. Boston has taken a similar approach this year, they traded away their future to win now.</p> Losing creates a lot of headaches, but Riley has positioned this team to retool once again next summer. They have $21M in cap space and will be one of the few teams with money next summer in what could be one of the deepest free agent pools ever. You have several players with option years the Heat can go after. Arenas, Brand, Maggette, Jermaine O'Neal, Baron Davis, Ron Artest to name just a few. The Shaq-Wade duo is still enough to attract free agents to jump on board for a title run. Now Miami will have the finances as well. I'm sure they'll get someone young enough to also team up with Wade post-Shaq era.</div></p> Err... I don't think this is the case. Shaq, Wade, Blount and Haslem are all under contract for 08-09 and 09-10 and are owed close to $50M just between the 4 of them. The salary cap is only $55M, so they aren't anywhere close.</p> </p> </p> </div></p> According to this article they will link</p> </p>
Nah, the article is right, but the analysis is wrong.</p> They're over the LT threshold of $67M with $21M in expiring contracts (NOTE: NOT CAP SPACE). $67M - $21M = $46M or at most $9M in cap space to throw at a FA.</p> </p>
The analysis is from the article, hence, the article is wrong.</p> I think you're right though that they've got $21M in expiring deals. But when you factor in the fact that the players they will have under contract will make more next year than they do this year (Wade, Blount, Haslem's deals all increase) they're going to have a non-useful amount of space at best.</p>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'></p> The Heat, in excess of the league's $67.9 million luxury tax, traded $12.6 million in 2006-07 salary in the deal and took back $13.5 million owed to Davis and Blount this season. Davis has one season left on his contract for $6.8 million. Blount has three seasons and $21.9 million left on his contract.</p> The Heat could have as much as $21 million in expiring contracts next summer, making it a potential bidder for a 2008 free agents crop that could include Gilbert Arenas, Ron Artest, Corey Maggette, Elton Brand, Baron Davis and Jermaine O'Neal.</div></p> The part about making it a potential bidder is the wrong analysis. I agree with you that $9M is the theoretical max and that it's much likely to be in the $7M or less cap space range. I'm not sure a guy like Arenas would sign for that little is all.</p> </p>
OK, I did the math, and I think I have it right.</p> Miami's committments for next year are $57.592M, adjusted by the trade benefit of $2.5M = $55M. The cap was $55M this year, guess $57M next year, so $2M cap space (so far) by my calculations.</p> However, the Heat have only 8 players under contract to make up that $55M, so they need 4 cap holds of minium salary $427K (x4 = 1.728M), or right about at the cap.</p> They do save the money they'd pay in Luxury Tax tho.</p> </p>
It's not the price. It is the quality. Deng matched up well against Dwade last year. Dwade is not worth Kirk and Deng from a quality stand point. Pick one and then figure out who else goes in that package. If that does not work, like Kobe, screw the deal.</p> </p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jumpman)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (23MJordan23)</div><div class='quotemain'></p> I do not like the trade..Deng AND Hinrich? No. I wouldn't mind having D Wade, but that is just a bad deal.</p> </div></p> Wow. Are you serious? Those two won't even get Wade.</p> </p> </div></p> </p>
