Was 9/11 George Bush's fault?

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I think it was. But some dumb sh*t for brains said she thought it was clinton's fault for not killing bin laden when he had the chance.My question is: Why did GW go after Saddam then? If Saddam was behind it like they act, then killing Bin Laden wouldn't matter, since Saddam would've just had someone else do it.Another question is, how did all the trade centers fall. I just saw this morning that it's not 2 TCs, there's actually a little complex with about 7 of them. There were only 2 planes, so did only some of the towers fall, or all of them? I don't understand that. Very fishy, a bit like Pearl Harbor, only with less reason.

 

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probably because of the force of the other towers collapsingI remember reading that WTC 3 (I think) which was one of the smaller towers didnt collapse until 5:00 that day so it must have had some time to deteriorate or something

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jhowardfan @ Sep 12 2006, 05:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>probably because of the force of the other towers collapsingI remember reading that WTC 3 (I think) which was one of the smaller towers didnt collapse until 5:00 that day so it must have had some time to deteriorate or something</div>CONSPIRACY: Or there were bombs in that building that destroyed it later... Good info though.

 

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This has to be one of the most stupid "conspiracies" I have ever heard. That's like saying it's McDonalds fault if I get fat and have a heart attack. I think all these damn conspiracies are just a ton of bullsh**. I've watched a few documentries on the computer about this stuff and its just so stupid.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Something-To-Say @ Sep 12 2006, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think it was. But some dumb sh*t for brains said she thought it was clinton's fault for not killing bin laden when he had the chance.My question is: Why did GW go after Saddam then? If Saddam was behind it like they act, then killing Bin Laden wouldn't matter, since Saddam would've just had someone else do it.Another question is, how did all the trade centers fall. I just saw this morning that it's not 2 TCs, there's actually a little complex with about 7 of them. There were only 2 planes, so did only some of the towers fall, or all of them? I don't understand that. Very fishy, a bit like Pearl Harbor, only with less reason.</div>There are other buildings for the World Trade Center. But the Twin Towers were the ones hit, and they are part of the WTC.

 

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Clinton had the Chance to kill Bin Laden in 98 I think, but he called it off for political reasons. Looking back, what a missed opportunity.

 

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It's "fishy" because you have no idea what you're talking about.And yes, Clinton did have a chance to go after bin Laden. In 2000, I did a current event thing for my speech class in high school. It was about the attack on the USS Cole, which happened during Clinton's time in office, albeit towards the end of it.Bush also had a chance. He was informed in August of 2001 that bin Laden was planning something. But no, it was real. The conspiracies are stupid and illogical. People talk because they lack knowledge, not because they know something that others don't. That's when you can actually start talking about conspiracies.

 

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Watch this - it'll change everything you ever thought about 9/11 and past tradgedies like pearl harbor...maybehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&q=Loose+change

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ReppinTheD @ Sep 12 2006, 08:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Watch this - it'll change everything you ever thought about 9/11 and past tradgedies like pearl harbor...maybehttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&q=Loose+change</div> Please don't tell me you believe in that 9/11 conspiracy crap...people that start these conspiracys act like their is something behind everything and that nothing just happens...so they think something big had to have happened. All these slime rely on is quotes taken out of context and spreading mis-information. If any of you believe that 9/11 conspiracy garbage, please, I'd love to hear your points/opinions. :thumbdn1:

 

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Bush nor his administration had nothing to do with 9/11. him and his administration were not in the presidentcy long enough to carry out an attack of that mangnitude. The Conspiracy theorist have lost their minds with all this dribble they keep spilling out. just because there are certain things mentioned before 9/11 didn't mean anyone knew what was being planned. Sec. Rice said it right when she said "we had no clue someone would take and hijack an airplane and use it as a missle". Terrorist usually try something small before they go for the big hit, this time they didn't.Clinton should take some of the responisibility because he had three chances to get Bin Laden. one when he first came into office, another one in about 96, and one in around 98. after the attacks on the Embassies in Africa, Clinton should have done more than just bomb a few factory terrorist camps. but the real one who should take the rap for 9/11 is the security guy who failed to give the planes to President Clintons, which said Al Quida planed an attack against the US.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (redneck @ Sep 12 2006, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bush nor his administration had nothing to do with 9/11. him and his administration were not in the presidentcy long enough to carry out an attack of that mangnitude. The Conspiracy theorist have lost their minds with all this dribble they keep spilling out. just because there are certain things mentioned before 9/11 didn't mean anyone knew what was being planned. Sec. Rice said it right when she said "we had no clue someone would take and hijack an airplane and use it as a missle". Terrorist usually try something small before they go for the big hit, this time they didn't.Clinton should take some of the responisibility because he had three chances to get Bin Laden. one when he first came into office, another one in about 96, and one in around 98. after the attacks on the Embassies in Africa, Clinton should have done more than just bomb a few factory terrorist camps. but the real one who should take the rap for 9/11 is the security guy who failed to give the planes to President Clintons, which said Al Quida planed an attack against the US.</div>Ok - I agree that a lot of it is pretty far-fetched, but at the same time, a lot of it makes you wonder. You can't say that 100% of the conspiracy theorists info is wrong because they've actually researched this stuff like crazy...I mean to make that Loose Change documentary you would have to do so much work for that 1 hour + movie...so it can't be all BS. and just because something is called a conspiracy theory doesn't mean it can't be true...take a look at it this way...1st a question is asked.2nd a theory is formed, and it becomes a conspiracty theory.3rd research is done about the topic, and you begin to find evidence to support this theory.4th With enough evidence, a theory automatically becomes a fact.thats how I view it - for some of those things on the Loose Change Documentary I've been convinced that some of those things are true - theres no other way around it because the amount of evidence they showed us.BCB have you watched Loose Change - all of it?

 

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I've seen Loose Change, and there are a lot of innacuracies in it. such as the part about the US only having seven fighter jets in US airspace at the time, thats BS. also, a lot of things they bring up are just coincidences. such as the insurance policy on the WTC. when you think about it, taking an insurance policy on it is a no brainer. it was a known target, and had been attacked before.A theory doesn't become a fact, it can become common knowledge, but it isn't a fact. people believed the Sun Rotated around the Earth, thats not a fact.

 

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My World History teacher this morning was talking about how it was Clinton's fault. There was this guy who was giving the government information for most of the time Clinton was in office and the government decided to ignore it. That's pretty much all I know. And then later on he said something about the attacks happening after he got killed and he was murdered on September 9th. I wish I would have listened better so I could put more into this thread...

 

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You can't blame Clinton. Nobody really took Bin Ladin seriously, I mean they knew who he was but all of his attacks were in other countries, the USA seemed too safe for that to happen. Preventing a freak occurence like 9/11 wasn't high on the to-do list. The worst attack on US soil before 9/11 was the oklahoma city bombing. That was done with a truck filled with explosives. The WTC was very prepared for that possibility. In fact, the WTC was ready for all possible attacks that have been thought of. Of course nobody thought of flying an airplane into them.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Sep 13 2006, 12:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My World History teacher this morning was talking about how it was Clinton's fault. There was this guy who was giving the government information for most of the time Clinton was in office and the government decided to ignore it. That's pretty much all I know. And then later on he said something about the attacks happening after he got killed and he was murdered on September 9th. I wish I would have listened better so I could put more into this thread...</div>are you refering to the Northern Alliance guy who had been screaming about Bin Laden for years? because if it was him, nobody took him serious either because he was thought to be a terrorist as well.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Sep 12 2006, 11:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My World History teacher this morning was talking about how it was Clinton's fault. There was this guy who was giving the government information for most of the time Clinton was in office and the government decided to ignore it. That's pretty much all I know. And then later on he said something about the attacks happening after he got killed and he was murdered on September 9th. I wish I would have listened better so I could put more into this thread...</div> Your World History teacher is an idiot. From what I've been reading it seems like some of you watched that 'Path to 9/11' series on TV which was not a true documentary, much of it was complete bullsh**.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 13 2006, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your World History teacher is an idiot. From what I've been reading it seems like some of you watched that 'Path to 9/11' series on TV which was not a true documentary, much of it was complete bullsh**.</div>yeah, that series isn't a documentary - that's what you call a "docudrama" - don't get confused between the two; they added things in the story line to make it more marketable to the audience.

 

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George Bush didnt cause 9/11 Bin Laden and Al Queda did, but Bush and National Security are still guilty for not taking the warnings seriously....that was a horrible mistake.

 

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I have had the opinions I have for years, long before there was any type of documentary, docudrama, fictional work, or whatever made about the subject. The fact remains that there are a lot of people at fault, Clinton and Bush included. They could have stopped or mitigated the damage caused on 9/11. However, hindsight is 20/20, so placing blame on one or two person(s) shoulders isn't exactly fair.I have had the opinions I have for years, long before there was any type of documentary, docudrama, fictional work, or whatever made about the subject. The fact remains that there are a lot of people at fault, Clinton and Bush included. They could have stopped or mitigated the damage caused on 9/11. However, hindsight is 20/20, so placing blame on one or two persons' shoulders isn't exactly fair.

 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BCB @ Sep 13 2006, 09:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Your World History teacher is an idiot. From what I've been reading it seems like some of you watched that 'Path to 9/11' series on TV which was not a true documentary, much of it was complete bullsh**.</div><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakersFan247 @ Sep 13 2006, 10:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>George Bush didnt cause 9/11 Bin Laden and Al Queda did, but Bush and National Security are still guilty for not taking the warnings seriously....that was a horrible mistake.</div>I didn't watch the path to 9/11 series but I've been researching a lot of stuff mentioned in loose change, and other 9/11 films that continually say that George Bush and the government had something to do with 9/11. the reason the NSA never took the stuff serious is because for the most part no body took Al Quida seriously. the Saudis didn't really take him serious even after he blew up their buildings. also, a lot of people seem to forget the NSA, CIA, Military Inteligents and other enforcment agentcies had their attention turned to China which had just nearly shot down a US plane, and than captured the crew. there was a lot of fear within the CIA especially that China could be using inteligence gathered from the plane to learn military secrets about the US. now when you weight the two which is a more serious threat, a bunch of "dune bunnies" or a military super power with a billion soliders. the warnings about 9/11 had been comming in since the mid 90s, but neither the Clinton nor Bush administrations took them serios, because like I said there were bigger fish to fry. As for blaming Clinton, there should be equal if not more blame placed on him for 9/11 as there is on Bush. 9/11 was planned well before GWB was even a canidate for the Presidency. Clintons inactions about the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole also emboldened the terrorist. Clinton also showed weakness in the US military many times including Kosivo and Mogidishu.