WB4 for MIP?

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  1. Reep

    Reep Well-Known Member

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    Rightfully, there is a lot of talk of our two draft picks and what we can get from free agency. But, I'm really hoping that WB4 can step up this year and own that role. He has all the tools to be really effective, and if he uses them could be in the running for MIP or 6th man. Just a reminder . . .

    If he is ready to step up to it, I hope he will get all the minutes he can handle. He could be amazing paired with Dame and CJ.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    I've very optimistic about WBIV. Hopefully, at this very moment, he's working on his outside shot.

    :cheers:
     
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    On Defense he is really good, but i'm skeptical about his offense Game, playmaking, shooting, creation, passing. We'll see
     
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    In the little we got to see of him, I liked everything I saw, with the exception of the form on his shot. His shots were falling, but they weren't pretty. With the right work, he could improve on that this summer. Considering he's trying to claw his way into an NBA rotation, I'm going to bet he is.

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    Reminds me of Rondo. Would be huge if he could become a reliable play maker and defensive stopper. You saw Rajons impact this year in the playoffs. A player like that is huge come post season when the game slows down.

    Props @Reep I like where your head's at.
     
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    BBert Weasels Ripped My Flesh

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    As for WBIV's defense, while excellent at times, he got burned quite a bit too. What he has shown is that he can be an excellent defender, he just needs more game experience against the best players in the league to do so consistently.
     
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    I don't think so. Baldwin is a fringe player as to even being in the league.
     
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    Yes. That’s mah boiii.

    But I think we should see what Portland does with Napier and the PG market first. Personally I would hand the backup role to Baldwin and then sign a vet for the minimum to act as insurance. Jameer Nelson would be ideal imo. Good in the locker room, can run an offense and knock down shots. Old as shit, but that’s why he’d be available for the minimum.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He needs to improve his 3-point shooting before he even cracks the rotation. In 17 G League games last year, he shot .239 3FG%. That's horrible and that's against G League competition. It's also below his G League career average of .276 3FG% in 50 games. That's a significant sample size, it's bad and it's moving in the wrong direction.

    He showed he can beat G League players off the dribble, he's long and athletic, but in the NBA, running the offense through a guy who can't shoot is a recipe for failure.

    Hopefully, the fact that we drafted two guards will give him added motivation to wok his as off and prove he belongs in this league.

    BNM
     
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    Hard to imagine a guy who shot above 40% from three in two years of college couldn’t get his shot to translate if he worked on it. Although we do see it periodically.
     
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    He was also dealing with a broken thumb. After being cleared to play - he still had it wrapped heavily
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    His sample size in the G League is 145 3-point attempts. His sample size in college was 199 3-point attempts. The biggest difference is the G League 3-point line is the same distance as the NBA 3-point line. For some players, that added distance makes a difference. Hopefully, he's spending all summer working on that.

    BNM
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Both years?

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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    Jake Layman wasn't above .400 3FG% in college but shot .396 3FG% his senior year. His NBA and G League sample sizes are small, but his 3FG percentages suck. .239 in the NBA and .226 in G League.

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    And thats with a what... 7-8 from three start in his debut or something?
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    He was 5 - 7 from 3-point range in his NBA game and has been 12 - 64 (.188 3FG%) since.

    BNM
     
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    I knew you knew the true numbers. Thanks. But yeah, take that first game out and .... wow............12 of 64.

    Lights out shooter!!!
     
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    In my second sentence I actually had "(Layman)" and the removed it before I posted.
     
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    Boob-No-More Why you no hire big man coach?

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    When we drafted Layman, the one thing I liked about him was he improved his 3FG% every year at Maryland (.299, .365, .378, .396). I thought that was a good sign.

    Oh well, some guys just never adapt to the NBA distance and speed of the game. Too bad, He has good form and shoots with confidence. The ball just doesn't go in the basket.

    BNM
     
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    This. His rookie sample isn’t large enough to draw any conclusions either.

    He’s fine as an outside shooter when he’s set. It’s the off the dribble threes where he needs work. That’s coachable. His biggest strengths offensively are transition, and an ability to get to the line. That’s something we really need.
     

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