We are at a crossroads

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I feel like this team has the talent to go to the playoffs if we actually had a bench.

    So.

    Would you:

    1. Continue to tank with this shitty bench and try to get the best lotto we can for this summer /paired with the cap space to strengthen our bench this summer.

    Or

    2. Try to make some moves now to strengthen our bench and make a run for the playoffs?

    I'm torn, but the draft looks pretty weak this year and I think it's unfair to our starters to have them play this hard with no help from the bench. I say try to make some moves and make a push for the playoffs.
     
  2. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I'd make some moves, because honestly, I can't stand watching the bench. I want to turn it off every time the bench unit is in.
     
  3. HailBlazers

    HailBlazers RipCity

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    Was thinking (1) all year, but am slowly leaning towards (2) when considering the draft class.
     
  4. TripTango

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    I think, as always, it depends on what is available. If the Blazers FO is actively monitoring the trade scene (which I can only hope they are) and the opportunity to improve the team pops up, how could we say no? I don't think purposefully tanking for picks is a winning strategy in the vast majority of situations. That said, there is no reason to believe that we are "one move away" from serious contention this year, so I wouldn't want to see any overly aggressive moves for a supporting cast member or two if there is no long-term upside.
     
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  5. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think it depends on what they think they can get out of the draft.

    If they could somehow make a trade where they get a lottery pick in return (unlikely) sure, do it. At this point, there is 1 player on the team that isn't going to be traded. And even he could be traded for a player if that player was a player that the team deemed a worthy player to trade said player for. Otherwise, he's not going to be traded for any player.

    God I hope that gets me in jlprks signature.

    Anyway, I don't know what they've decided to do. Obviously they've decided not to use their bench much. There's no way you can't be running plays to get these guys shots, let alone points.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    If we're going to tank, somebody needs to let Stotts in on it so he doesn't totally burn out our good players.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Take a risk:

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  9. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    And how do we increase our talent quantity & quality with trades now?
     
  10. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I don't really care what moves they make. Watching the bench is just not fun anymore, and that goes against the whole point of watching the games.

    Like many people have said before, there are free agents out there that would do miles better than the current bench mob. A broken down Kenyon Martin and a crazy Delonte West are still going to be better than Freeland and Price.
     
  11. Further

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    As it stands now, my guess is that we end up with a pick somewhere in the 10 - 14 ranges. Considering that two of those spots (13-14) are headed elsewhere and the others are sucky in a bad draft, I say we try and get better. I'm not talking about trading any of our top six players, but mainly cutting a couple of scrubs like Nolan and Sasha, and then picking up a couple of alternatives like west or Finley.
     
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    But I would not make any moves that included signing more than a current season contract
     
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    This draft looks shallow, aside from the top picks. I say let's play the game right and play to win.
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Keep on playing the bench.

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  15. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I would agree with that. Unless the player coming back is a game changing talent.
     
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    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Chad Ford and the scouts he's talked to say this is the weakest draft in years.

    If you don't land a top-5 pick, deal it!
     
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    OK. So you're suggesting waiving players and making room for some free agents.

    Well, on the surface I like the idea. But I would do it if it meant getting quality people as well as players. Martin & West are complete nut jobs. I think they do more harm than good.
     
  18. B-Roy

    B-Roy If it takes months

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    West is a nutjob, but Martin is not. The Clippers were very impressed by his maturity last season. He just wants more than the vets min, and no one is giving it to him. In either case, they wouldn't be signed past this year, and it will save us the horror of watching Price and Freeland try to play basketball.

    Here is a list of free agents I think would be better than Price/Pavlovic/Freeland:

    Delonte West
    Kenyon Martin
    Michael Redd
    Ben Wallace
    Shelden Williams

    None of those guys are world beaters, but hey, they can't be worse than what we currently have. And it's not like any of the bench guys are players we're actually trying to develop. (Outside of Meyers, but I don't really consider him part of the horrible bench mob)
     
  19. BLAZER PROPHET

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    Some of those guys are worth a look. Redd, if healthy, can score. Wallace is old but he knows how to defend.
     
  20. julius

    julius Living on the air in Cincinnati... Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Wallace could teach Leonard a lot of tricks.

    I'd be happy if the team had 1 guy off the bench who could actually score.
     

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