We got the #3 pick. Discuss the possibilities.

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Strenuus, May 16, 2023.

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What are you hoping for with this pick?

  1. Draft Scoot and keep him

    27.6%
  2. Draft Miller and keep him

    28.6%
  3. Draft someone else at 3 and keep him (please specify)

    3.1%
  4. Trade down, but still draft in the lottery

    10.2%
  5. Trade the pick for a starting forward

    30.6%
  1. Pinwheel1

    Pinwheel1 Well-Known Member

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    But do his highlights look any better than Badgi's? I don't think so. Now granted they are just highlights so it is hard to tell. I wish I knew because I don't want to waste #23 unless one of these centers is. Too many other quality players will be available. My guess is a center will be taken in round 2.
     
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  2. Irish Trader

    Irish Trader Erin go Braugh

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    Look at video of this 7'5" kid he is very mobile and 230. Might be the answer to defending the number 1 guy in this years draft
     
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    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    No idea where these numbers come from but I trust you didn't just manufacture these.

    I share the sentiment that giving up #3 for Brown at his gigantic price is not the best move for us.

    I want Sharpe to start asap and be good but still the 5th best starter on our team next year, so I am not hot on Derozan.

    Siakam would be good if we can get him to agree to resign

    Bridges would be a good addition too. Any of the mentioned players will improve our team. It all depends on price of acquisition.
     
  4. AmirIcon

    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    We need a point of attack defender. That's why I like Bridges at his price more than Brown. If you can't get a piece that fits, draft the highest ceiling guy you can and use Ant/Nurk/Picks to get a vet.
     
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    inconceivable Well-Known Member

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    We have Thybulle as the PoA defender for the 2nd unit. Bridges would be almost perfect for the 1st unit. My issue is his poor rebounding paired with Grant's also poor rebounding at the forward spots
     
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    I'm starting to think that I would rather acquire #4 plus some other assets and take Amen as our PG rather than selecting Scoot. They are pretty similar in strengths/weaknesses except Amen is a much better defender and he is way more versatile because of his length. Kind of a Scottie Pippen role.
     
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    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    A legitimate concern for sure. Jaylen Brown is a superior rebounder to Bridges.
     
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    cheesehoff Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't matter who the POA defenders are if your defensive scheme is to switch every screen...or when two offensive players simply pass near each other.
    They could have 4 great defenders on the floor along with Dame or Ant and the offense will simply use one screen to isolate Dame/Ant. Bury the better defender in the corner to negate a strong POA defender and take advantage of a weak defender.
    Chauncey's scheme is very flawed and Dame and Ant are very bad defensively which makes it very hard to get stops consistently.
     
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  9. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I am neither of those things. And I said "used to" because now I don't think he would. There are far too many short guards who put up points in the league right now. CJ is not special.
     
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    those are numbers from basketball reference:

    https://www.basketball-reference.com/

    I'm not 'hot' on DeRozan either. But I do think a player like him enters the conversation when you start gauging the 'acquisition-cost/long-term-cost/impact' equations. I think the cost of the 3 players constantly mentioned will be way too high. And the one player, Brown, who may have a lower acquisition cost will likely have by far the highest long-term-cost while also having the least impact
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Well the biggest difference is Ant is 23 right now and CJ was 30 as a Blazer. Yeah if Ant produces exactly as he is now for the next 7 years then I probably won't expect much unrealized upside. Ant is at an age that players normally make significant improvements.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    DeRozen would be totally fine on offense here, maybe even great offensively next season, especially if the Blazers still have a lot of shooting with Dame/Sharpe/Grant/#3/etc.

    The issue is entirely on the defensive end. Grant and DeRozen are a horrible duo, and you combine that with Dame poor defense, maybe Ant or Scoot being undersized, Sharpe still being below average in that regard, Nurk's poor mobility, and the team just doesn't have any good upside to win in the playoffs. They might be great in the regular season and even a top3 seed but they'll get smoked when the games matter just like the Melo/Kanter teams.

    Then add to it that DeRozen is likely to decline every year and you question whats the point of acquiring him.

    Now if a Bulls trade makes sense for other factors and DeRozen is more of a contract filler throw in it would be great. But if the Blazers have to fork over picks, young players, or other long term assets to have DeRozen included I question the point of doing that experiment.
     
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    The previous schemes used could have been based off the personnel.
     
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    SharpesTriumph Well-Known Member

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    Great post - yeah thats why Siakam/DeRozen/etc don't make any sense. Our defense will still suck and then we just gave away a possible hall of famer at #3 for Olshey style mediocrity.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    Can’t wait till the NBA finals are over and shit really starts hitting the fan in here!
     
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    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    Trade Idea that include these players in my opinion are DOA cause these players do not fit what the Blazers need:

    KAT -- contract and like Grant
    Christian Wood -- Like Grant
    Ayton -- Contract , Lazy / Lack of work Ethic
    Siakam -- Like Grant
    DeRozen -- OLD ( decline inc ) , Poor Shooter

    I reserve right to add more but I am sick of seeing trades that involve these players
     
  17. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Siakam is not like Grant at all. I'm sick of seeing this lazy comparison.

    One is a former champion and borderline all nba player who can defend, rebound, and playmake. The other is role playing starter who can't rebound or create.
     
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    Ripcity4life77 Well-Known Member

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    He is better then Grant but he is still more like him then not and this is the truth but we differ on this no biggie but another thought crossed my mind on this 3rd pick ....

    What if the Blazers decide to package Ant or Nurk with the other 1st round pick - ( 23rd ) to get bench / depth pieces

    Let's say the Hornets take Scoot the Blazers might decide to take Miller or one of the Thompson twins to play SF or maybe Trade back to get someone else to get more assets -

    I do think the Blazers first , 2nd and 3rd plan is to try and get another proven star but what if that falls through and they have to come up with a more creative solution to help Dame and try and make him happy. The only real flaw with this idea is we have a GM who is average at best so that means we would have to place our faith in Cronin and that is scary.
     
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    I continue to think that if the Magic are really in love with pick 3 that we could send 3 and Ant for Franz, WCJ and pick 11. We could then package pick 11 and Nurk to a team like Indy for bench guys like McConnell and Jalen Smith. Pick BPA at 23 and 43 which is where Schmitz makes his money.
     
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    Then we turned a possible hall of fame player at #3 into a bunch of lesser parts?

    I guess if the Blazers had an elite big 3 already and needed to fill out a roster of deep role players to contend that might make sense. With where the Blazers are currently at it just seems better to draft BPA at 3 and gamble that you hit a star.
     
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