We Have No Plan

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  1. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    If I understand Cho, there are currently no plans on trade ideas to improve the team.

    If so, then how in the world did we end up with 5 SG's??? Especially in that we took a second round pick from Utah and grossly overpaid him to do what the team already felt Williams can do.

    Well, here's hoping Cho can clean this mess up created by Al Davis II and Vulvan.
     
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    Ed O Administrator Staff Member Administrator

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    Link?

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  3. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Apparently you don't understand Cho? He's on the record saying that this team is 2 or 3 moves away from being a legit title contender. I'd say standing pat is probably the furthest thing from his mind.
     
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    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    I understand that. But he stated in one of his news conferences that he came here knowing we are a couple of players away, but having no current plans from either he or the team in place. I understand him not coming here with plans, but what was the team doing obtaining matthews, our 5th SG, without a plan of their own on how to straighten out our roster situation? That's whack.
     
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    See there is your problem. Cho thinks this team is 2 or 3 moves away from being a contender. But you're assuming he wants this team to be a contender. I never heard him say that. :devilwink:
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    Where's TradeBob when we need him!
     
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    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    via BlazersBanter: Cho: "In any organization, the GM has got to run stuff by the owner. I've always been in an organization where ... we always (did)."

    :NOTMARIS:
     
  9. Nikolokolus

    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Matthews replaces Martell's contributions and with Rudy almost certainly gone he soaks up his minutes as well. That leaves 3 rookies added to the roster who probably won't be expected to contribute except in the most dire circumstances. But really, it means Cho is playing cards with a lot of chips on his side of the table. He's got moveable pieces in Jerryd, Miller, Przybilla, Rudy, Williams, Johnson, Babbitt, Dante, Pendergraph, Koponen, Freeland and Claver ...
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Good point.
     
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    craigehlo Elite Wing

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    Actually in the Mike Barrett interview with Paul Allen, Allen said he and Cho discussed trades to improve the team when he was in Helsinki. I think his ideas on that front were a big part of what he got the gig.
     
  12. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    But how can Rudy be "almost gone" when Al Davis, II and Vulcan clearly had no plan? Now, maybe they felt the GM they would eventually hire would straighten things out, but there is no such thing as a guaranteed trade in the NBA. Bottom line is that they added a 5th SG with no tangible idea of how to even out the roster.
     
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    Well, I missed that. It makes me feel a bit better, but only a bit. If a team is going to obtain a 5th SG (or a 5th player at any position), they should have a deal already in place to properly trim the roster and improve the team. Not a bunch of "maybe" talk. It's just very irresponsible and gives further insight to the disfunctional management we have- IMHO.
     
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    You don't understand him.
     
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    That's the bottom line of how you see things, perhaps. Not necessarily how they are.

    Matthews will probably be the backup small forward, in addition to playing some shooting guard. Bayless will probably be the backup point guard, in addition to playing some shooting guard. Rudy is a SG, Williams is a SG, and Roy is a SG. That is presumably where you came up with the five SGs complaint.

    In any case, why is it a problem to have five good shooting guards? Would we be better off having three good ones and two crappy ones?

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    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    That's what my wife and ABM tell me all the time.
     
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    I feel that I do from the 2 brief moments that I got to touch him yesterday.

    (and brief as in short amount of time, not that I actually touched his briefs. I gotta always stay one step ahead of you pervs.)
     
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    Maybe we should give it a little time. I don't know, like, more than 24 hours?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I mean Rudy wants out, Jason Quick even reported today that he asked for a trade before last year's deadline, the team tried to move him on draft night and Rudy (supposedly?) is asking for his release so he can go back to Spain. If anything adding a shooting guard who can hit a three and play solid wing defense sounds like a contingency at worst and a plan for the future at best -- it means they aren't beholden to Rudy showing up for training camp, they are no longer in need of his services and have somebody to plug into the roster at the backup 2 and 3 spots.

    It's not like it's going to be as difficult as soliving differential equations or proving string theory while drunk on fifteen beers to make moves to balance the roster. You seem to be over-thinking this.
     
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    Cho will have a plan in place. The Blazer addressed one issue, perimeter D, with the Matthew's signing already. After seeing JRich kill the Blazers in the 1st round, it was a solid move IMHO. That move also had the side effect of answering the question of what to do with Rudy and Bayless. Both will likely get moved at some point in the season.

    I think it's pretty obvious the PG spot is the glaring question for the franchise.
     

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