We have to beat a good team...

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  1. Warriorfansnc93

    Warriorfansnc93 JBB JustBBall Member

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    So we have beaten 2 bad teams. We may be the best bad team in the NBA, but we are not a good team. We cant rely on the jump shot. If we dont win some games against good teams, we are looking at a 20 win season...
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Yeah pretty much. Trade Dunleavy now! I'm telling you get a good defensive small forward that can run out and shoot some, you'll get more contested shots, more help defense for Jrich, and better chances for running the break. We need to have somebody like Joe Johnson or a Jumaine Jones all in one type player. Somebody that can post up some, dribble, pass, and shoot from the corner or the top of the key and play defense!
     
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    saad JBB Banned Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">If we dont win some games against good teams, we are looking at a 20 win season...</div>

    bulls fans would kill for that.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    Sorry but Hinrich and Deng look solid. Deng had a bad game tonight but he's looked great other games. I think either Chandler or Curry needs to go. Chandler wasn't worth the trade for Elton Brand, but it was a good kind of risk since there are few players with Chandler's height and athleticism. Curry just needs to get out of Chicago to flourish, he's obviously a weak mental player. He reminds me of Dampier. All this potential, a good mix of power and athleticism, but he just fades away.
     
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    How about Dunleavy for Curry? I would love to have Curry or even Chandler...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Warriorfansnc93:</div><div class="quote_post">How about Dunleavy for Curry? I would love to have Curry or even Chandler...</div>

    we'll trade you both of them for your waterboy.
     
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    Shakes hands...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting custodianrules2:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah pretty much. Trade Dunleavy now! I'm telling you get a good defensive small forward that can run out and shoot some, you'll get more contested shots, more help defense for Jrich, and better chances for running the break. We need to have somebody like Joe Johnson or a Jumaine Jones all in one type player. Somebody that can post up some, dribble, pass, and shoot from the corner or the top of the key and play defense!</div>

    Jumaine Jones over Dunleavy? You are kidding right?
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bay_Area_Fan:</div><div class="quote_post">Jumaine Jones over Dunleavy? You are kidding right?</div> Jumaine Jones is pretty underrated. I think he's better than Dunleavy in defense and offense. Watch him you'll see. His value is low because he was on a bunch of teams that already had forwards so he hasn't seen much playing time. He's an open court player, can shoot from the perimeter, can play really aggressive defense. I think he's a good compliment to Jrich. That's all I'm saying. we need defense on the perimeter.
     
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    Dunleavy is not the reason why the Warriors are losing. Watch, the Warriors have been torched by the off-guard more often than the person Dunleavy is guarding. Jumaine Jones? You want to trade someone you picked 3rd only two years ago for a journeyman? You guys are clamoring for the chance to pick up Curry and Chandler who have already been in the league 3 years yet will not even give Dunleavy 3 years. Short sighted and just wrong.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy is not the reason why the Warriors are losing. Watch, the Warriors have been torched by the off-guard more often than the person Dunleavy is guarding. Jumaine Jones? You want to trade someone you picked 3rd only two years ago for a journeyman? You guys are clamoring for the chance to pick up Curry and Chandler who have already been in the league 3 years yet will not even give Dunleavy 3 years. Short sighted and just wrong.</div>

    Never said I was fan of Jrich's defense either which I was why I thought he should move to the 3 or get shipped for somebody that can score and play defense (that's too hard though). And Dunleavy picked third was a joke. I'm sorry. Until I start seeing a player that can be making at least Jrich impact I think a journeyman (that can do things on both ends of the floor) is better than a duke future journeyman such Dunleavy.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy is not the reason why the Warriors are losing. Watch, the Warriors have been torched by the off-guard more often than the person Dunleavy is guarding. Jumaine Jones? You want to trade someone you picked 3rd only two years ago for a journeyman? You guys are clamoring for the chance to pick up Curry and Chandler who have already been in the league 3 years yet will not even give Dunleavy 3 years. Short sighted and just wrong.</div>

    I think us white boys are just hoping Dunleavy makes it. We are so close minded that we dont see the obvious things. Jrich in his first year was making an impact. By now Dunleavy should be at least making the impact Jrich did in his first year...
     
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    Well, Dunleavy isn't the reason why we are losing (I will let his airball and missed fts slide for now). But, he isn't the reason why we are 'winning' as well. So far, he has been adaquate SF, but at the same time, he hasn't been an impacting player, and showed any sign that he will lead this team to anywhere. And, this is supposely a year for Dunleavy to make or break. Unrefined Jamison, Arenas and Richardson all showed the hope in their 2nd or 3rd years, and if Dunleavy can't make the impact this season, he will most likely becomes an adaquate and flawed SF for the future, and I think it's time for Mullin to move on, no matter how much he loves Dunleavy.

    Bottom line is that he still has 73 games to prove himself. Hope he can probe many skeptics wrong...
     
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    Dunleavy had a 20-20 game last year (one of only 3 I think Duncan, Randolph). JRich has never done that. If that's not promise, well so be it.
     
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    Richardson has also had a 40pt game, Dunleavy has never done that. In fact, he has only scored 32pts once in the beginning of last season. And Richardson has had career highs in assists (8) 4 times. Dunleavy's is 9 once. Supposedly Jrich is the scorer, and Dunleavy is supposed to be the shooter/passer/rebound/versatile guy and he is not outplaying Jrich... Yes, there is more season to go. I hope he proves me wrong because if he plays well and makes everyone else better around him, then the Warriors will do well and that is what we ALL want...
     
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    P.S. When Pietrus comes in and wreaks havoc on defense, shows an uncanny knack at getting at the rim and all of the sudden, we start winning some games; Dunleavy will be on the bench. Mark my words...
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting philsmith75:</div><div class="quote_post">Dunleavy had a 20-20 game last year (one of only 3 I think Duncan, Randolph). JRich has never done that. If that's not promise, well so be it.</div>

    Well, if one excellent game decides who's promising and not, don't you think guys like Delk or Murray looks awfully promising with their 50 pts game? As a matter of fact, didn't Dunleavy replace the guy who put back-to-back 51 pts games, which happened only few times in the history of NBA? If Dunleavy's one 20-20 games gave enough hope for us, then we just traded MJ for NVE...
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, if one excellent game decides who's promising and not, don't you think guys like Delk or Murray looks awfully promising with their 50 pts game? As a matter of fact, didn't Dunleavy replace the guy who put back-to-back 51 pts games, which happened only few times in the history of NBA? If Dunleavy's one 20-20 games gave enough hope for us, then we just traded MJ for NVE...</div>

    That's what I'm saying. Either we see how he does playing point guard or we just ship him out. We really need another scorer badly. Hopefully one that can also defend. Anybody know if Marion or Joe Johnson is on the block? How about Bonzi Wells?
     
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    When teams are doing well, they're not going to trade away their players. Wells might be available, but Jerry West could probably find a way to make me regret dealing with Memphis. Sacramento is probably looking for takers for Doug Christie, but like any male, they're probably frightened by seeing his wife at games.
     
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    I would take Christy...
     

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