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  1. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Hillary Clinton and Bill Richardson.

    Change We Can Believe In!
     
  2. BLAZER PROPHET

    BLAZER PROPHET Well-Known Member

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    Well, I think Clinton will be a very good Sec of State. She's smart & tough.

    As to Richardson, he hot his post by stabbing his old friends (Clintons) in the back. He's a political leper.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    When you're finished changing, you're finished.

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    Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.
     
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    SodaPopinski Tigers love pepper

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    Ummm ... it stands to reason that Hillary Clinton and Bill Richardson will have drastically different ideas and goals and strategies than Condi Rice and Carlos Gutierrez.

    I'm confused at how people would construe that as "not a change."

    -Pop
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Hillary and Condi are both women, and Bill and Carlos are both Latino. That's not change, that's more of the same.

    barfo
     
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    I'm disappointed that he's not naming lobbyists and former CEOs to his cabinet.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    The only change a President can effect is who they appoint to their cabinet. After that, their job is over. Obama has clearly proven that he will do nothing different, because he's appointed people we've heard of before!

    Unless Obama does something else over the next four to eight years, his Presidency will have to be judged a failure.
     
  9. 44Thrilla

    44Thrilla cuatro cuatro

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    I'm pretty sure the righties were going to complain about his cabinet picks regardless of who they were.
     
  10. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I've got no real beefs with his picks. In my book, he's entitled to choose who he wants and to get them approved by the senate.

    It does speak volumes about "change" being a lie tho.
     
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    It's hilarious because the same people saying "omg wat happnd to change?!?!" are the same ones who would be flipping out if he was picking a bunch of unknowns for such high powered positions.
     
  12. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    I remember making several posts about "change" being "change back" (and to something not all that great).

    It's ok, tho. I'm used to the democrats lying their asses off to get elected and then people apologizing for them after it's clear they lied. It's hilarious.
     
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    You make no sense. Change back is still change.
     
  14. maxiep

    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    If people wanted a Clinton third term, wouldn't they have voted for Hillary? Barack Obama was promising "change" and "hope" from the politics of the past. Instead, he's offering nothing more than a carbon copy of the Clinton Administration, with the copy setting just a little darker.
     
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    The differences between Hillary and Obama were very minor. They had the same ideas, just different details, and only on a few issues. Obama won because he campaigned better.
     
  16. Denny Crane

    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    The Clinton administration was the most scandal ridden in my lifetime - even worse than Nixon. Why bring any of those people back?

    Richardson is great, tho.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Change We Can Believe In!
     
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    I don't know why he's doing it, but shouldn't we wait til he actually starts governing before we proclaim him Clinton 2.0?

    BTW, I said all along that Obama was running the same campaign as Bill Clinton's in 92, so none of this is surprising me at all.
     
  19. Denny Crane

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    So "same" means "not change."

    Glad you admit it.

    Finally
     
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    Yes, change from the tremendously unpopular Bush administration. If you were expecting something more, then I don't know what to tell you.
     

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