At first, I was a big fan of it. Now, I am re-thinking the idea.The refs are giving out Technical fouls left and right. Andreas Nocioni got one for showing emotion after a dunk. That's where it gets ridiculus.Ejections so far ( That I know of)Carmelo AnthonyMike BibbyRasheed WallaceIt's ruining the fun in the game, Players cant show emotion after a dunk anymore?
I hate it, let the players talk to the refs, I saw Kobe on Quite Frankly last night and he said he was talking to Kareem about it and Kareem said the refs used to yell back. I want it like that, not the stupid ejections crap. Carmelo last night was just fustrated with himmself and threw his headband down and the refs ejected him. How do you expect a player to not show any emotions?
I agree. I like the idea behind the rule, but from what I've seen so far it really hasn't been that great. Elson got a technical last night in the Spurs-Mavs game for screaming during/after a dunk. That's ridiculous... emotion is part of the game, and the way things are going right now it looks like Stern is trying to get the players not to exhibit emotion while playing the game.What is really going to hurt the league is when superstar players start getting ejected for no absolute reason (sort of like the Carmelo Anthony situation last night). I know it's early in the season and all, but I'm hoping the referees start implementing the rule better (using better judgment when giving out a technical) otherwise we might need to get rid of it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>At first, I was a big fan of it. Now, I am re-thinking the idea.</div> Same here, it's ridiculous. I could see for some guys constantly bitching but just for waving a hand or yelling? Give me a break. Put I have a solution to the problem...All the starters for each team on the first play should start yelling and waving their arms crazily at the referee's...they would all get kicked out...then forcing Stern to change the rules.
It's almost come to the point where the whole game is effected by it, for example the Denver game. Carmello would certainly have given them a better chance of winning that game. Idk, people aren't robots you know. Tim Duncan shows emotion after a nice play once in a while. You can't expect the players to just bottle themselves in during the whole game. People need to show emotion. I don't get the point of the rule now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>All the starters for each team on the first play should start yelling and waving their arms crazily at the referee's...they would all get kicked out...then forcing Stern to change the rules.</div>They don't need to...When superstars and stars start getting thrown out, Stern is going to do something. He can't have those star attractions being thrown out so easily. It's going to change, and soon, too.Interesting fact...I'm watching ESPN right now, and they just said that there were 30 technicals in the first 17 games of the season...wow.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Nov 3 2006, 06:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They don't need to...When superstars and stars start getting thrown out, Stern is going to do something. He can't have those star attractions being thrown out so easily. It's going to change, and soon, too.</div>Exactly. Eventually the referees will be put into a situation where they will either have to start giving star players technical fouls and/or tossing them (thus enraging fans, etc.) or swallow their whistles and give star players more leeway with the zero tolerance rule than they would "ordinary" players. So, essentially, they will either have to enforce the rule to the point where the entertainment value of the game will decrease due to star players getting tossed, or they'll look like hypocrites by giving them more leeway. The gray area in the middle is what it was like before the rule was implemented, and I believe as the season wears on you'll see things settle back down into that area.The referees always come out of the gates trying to call as many traveling and palming violations, etc., and then that all dies down as the season grows old. This year will be no different...
Its horrible. I love the emotion players show because it is showing their passion for the game which is sometimes hard to find in the NBA. Of course, Stern has to screw the game up again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BALLAHOLLIC? @ Nov 3 2006, 05:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>At first, I was a big fan of it. Now, I am re-thinking the idea.The refs are giving out Technical fouls left and right. Andreas Nocioni got one for showing emotion after a dunk. That's where it gets ridiculus.Ejections so far ( That I know of)Carmelo AnthonyMike BibbyRasheed WallaceIt's ruining the fun in the game, Players cant show emotion after a dunk anymore?</div>Malik Allen also got ejected..I think it's going to be hell for Rasheed. Obviously he cant keep his mouth shut, and control his emotions, and I think he'll get quite a few ejections this year because of that. They should ease up a little bit. 4 ejections in 2-3 days is a bit much..I think players should be aloud to play with emotion, and some things should be let slide, but when players start comlaining to officials constantly, then there should be action taken.
In the Sixers-Magic game tonight, they gave a bullsh** technical to Keith Bogans. Iverson got one as well, but his was warranted, whereas Bogans was simply talking to himself, away from the referees, and was hit with a technical... that was ridiculous.
I was in favor before the season but after watching these games I found it to be a bunch of bullsh** :dribble:WAY TOO MANY techs have been called...some are called for but most ive seen havent really been
Amare got a technical today for doing a little skip after he was called for a foul on a nice block on Boozer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASUFan22 @ Nov 3 2006, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol and now Marion got a T for waving....</div>Yeah, wtf was that? He was like scratching his head and BAM! TECHNICAL. The NBA hates the Suns.
Emotion and heart should be allowed, but I agree that cracking down on the cry-babies and bad attitudes is needed.The problem is they aren't differentiating on the two. Any emotion and BAM, technical.
When Shawn Marion gets a T for waving the call away, that is just dumb. I do not like this new rule at all.
This rule is honestly the worst rule the NBA has put in a long time. In the Spurs game against the Mavs the other night, Elson got a tech for staying on the rim to long because he had to much momentum, and when he got down he just showed some emotion because it was a good dunk. It showed a slow replay and he didnt say a word. I was pretty dang mad. this rule wont stay like this for too long. the NBA is going to lose alot of money for this and I think that david stern will have to tell the refs to stop giving out ridiculous techs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Referees Gone Wild!in The Links by Lang Whitaker, NBA, Columnists, Feature Tooby Lang WhitakerAll the talk during the games on TV and in the papers the last few nights has been about the rule adjusments allowing referees to hand out technical fouls to any player that even breathes the wrong way. This isn?t a new rule, it?s just an enforcement of the actual rules. The NBA decided that they?d reached a point where everyone would complain about everything, so the NBA decided to do something about it.At lunch with the TNT dudes the other day, Charles and Kenny were adamant that this is a good rule change, and that guys complain a ton more now than they did in the ?80s and ?90s. At the same time, Chuck and Kenny didn?t want the refs to be too tough on the players.?The refs have got to make an adjustment,? Barkley said. ?Things had gotten out of hand, man. Guys were complaining about every single call. They can?t have guys complaining after every single call, but the refs have to be really careful. They can?t be giving out T?s like candy. Players have the right to complain, but not after every call. The refs don?t miss every call.?No, but they do miss a lot of calls. At that Nets/Raptors game the other night, there was a horrible missed call by Leon Wood that went in favor of the Nets and changed the flow of the game, but nobody was able to complain about it. Mike Bibby was tossed in the closing minutes of the Kings first game, and Carmelo Anthony was ejected from the Nuggets? first game for throwing his headband off the floor.I understand the NBA wanting to take more control of the games, but I also didn?t tune into TNT last night in order to see Tom Washington refereeing. I wanted to see Melo and the Nuggets play the Clippers. The NBA is carried by its stars, and perhaps it would be best to give them a little leeway sometimes, no?(Oddly, the ref who showed the most restraint last night? Steve Javie, who refrained from t?ing up Sam Cassell after Cassell went nuts with under 20 left. And you just know Javie was ready to pull the trigger there.)Anyway, I did the math: Through the first three days of the season, there have been 17 games played and there have been ? get this ? 46 technical fouls called. That doesn?t differentiate between illegal defense calls and techs called for general dissent, but it?s still a tremendous amount, nearly three per game.But should we be surprised by all the quick whistles? Think about how many times over the last ten years that the refs have been screamed at or shouted down and had to sit there quietly. Think about how Jess Kersey felt when he got popped in the mouth with the ball last night. Think about how many times fans have verbally abused the guys in stripes.Being a referee must be a high-stress job, right? Part of your gig is that a lot of the people in the crowd are going to make fun of you while you work. And now that the refs have been told they don?t have to take it anymore, well, they?re not taking it anymore. The refs have been told, finally, to stand up for themselves.And we?re seeing the results night after night.Welcome to the new NBA.Hope you life watching referees blow whistles.</div> Good little article from Whittaker.
Ok. This rule is horrible. This only suppresses the emotions of players that we WANT to see. I don't want to watch boring, meaningless, and emotionless basketball - it's just people going back and forth scoring the ball. There is no yelling, no grimacing, no putting your hands up after missing something - it's plain boring. I bet you can't even show emotion after getting a huge dunk or something - or you might face getting a T. Anyway, I think the NBA will tone this down a little bit - if they know what's good for them, they will.
