What do you think of Baron's season so far??

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  1. xplicitjc

    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    dunleavy has been getting a lot of criticism for his current slump, which i think is totally legit, but how about baron? he was unstoppable last year, but he just hasn't been up to par in my oppinion so far. he's shooting 33% from the field, 27% from 3pt and 68% from the line. i'll give it to him that he's been passing real well, as well as getting a decent number of steals and boards. my point is, baron's slump (as it might be) might be hurting the w's just as much, if not more than duns. i think he's gonna have to start hitting more shots if he's gonna lead us to the playoffs. what u guys think?
     
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    I'd have to disagree. Despite his shooting problems he makes up for it with everything else. I mean without Baron the Warriors would probably be 3-10 or something, seriously. He's made big plays in the games we won.

    Dunleavy on the other hand we can only count on to shoot, not much more. But other than his shooting, which has been nonexistent, he doesn't really help the team in other ways as Baron does.

    Keep in mind that the ONLY reason we have hopes for playoffs (for a team thats missed it for 11 seasons) is because of Baron. So while he is criticized for his shooting, we have to keep in mind that he's really our only hope. Wish I could say the same about Dunnuthin.
     
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    The chemistry is just not there this year. Last year, they got out and ran a whole lot more, I'm not sure if it's Monty trying to get a Playoff style offense in place or Baron's hammy that are keeping them from running, but something needs to happen. These guys need to get out and run and stop jacking up 3s.
     
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    I agree with Anime. There is no question that Davis has been a horrible fantasy player this season. He shot sub 30% and under 30% from 3 pts. But, his influence on the court is unquestionable. Whenever he is on the court, our players are more alert, because if you are not, there is a good chance that Davis' pass will hit your head. And, because they are more alert, other players are producing more than before. There is a reason why players like Richardson, Murphy, Foyle, Fisher and Pietrus are having best seasons in their careers all of sudden. And, that's why we can't rest Davis despite his hammy injury. The main reason we are 7-6 right now is because of 70% of Davis. Really, today's game was the only game I thought Davis had no impact.

    Foyle is another horrible fantasy player that brings so much intangible on the court. He really has been the man in the middle trying to fight against giants, and without him, our defense would have been collapsed long time ago.

    In other hand, I am trying to find Dunleavy's so called intangibility for last 3+ years, and I couldn't find it yet, because if he has any, he should impact the game one way or the other despite his horrible shooting slump. If Dunleavy miss few games, exactly what will we miss in this season?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">If Dunleavy miss few games, exactly what will we miss in this season?</div>

    His airballs.
     
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    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    xplicitjc cold as a hooker's heart

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    don't get me wrong, i love baron to death, and i know that without him it'd be another long season where we're mathematically eliminated from the playoffs in january...i just dont see him hitting those shots that he was hitting last year. maybe it's cuz i just got back from the game tonight, and i was depressed as a result. i truly believe that he's gonna up his shooting percentage by damn near 10%. you guys are right though, he definately has a presence out there that gets everybody else into their element...i just think that he's been playing far beneath his potential.
     
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    Custodianrules2 Cohan + Rowell = Suck

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AnimeFANatic:</div><div class="quote_post">His airballs.</div>

    In all fairness, Dunleavy draws more back iron and front iron than anything.

    Everyone just wait, he'll have one good game to get all our hopes up again. [​IMG]
     
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    I think we are not going to resemble the team we had last year that rattled off 8 straight until we get Baron healthy. He is not healthy right now. The good news is a Baron Davis at 70% is still better than anything we have had since Timmy. The bad news is that we are going to be playing near .500 ball unless we get Baron healthy. The question is this....

    Are we satisified with having a record of .500?

    Or

    Would we rather take our lumps for a few weeks to get Baron healthy so we can play like we did at the end of the season last year?

    Me personally, I say play him for as long as we can until he can not take it any more or he is not helping our team. Maybe we need to take the approach Monty did with him last year. We got him while he was still hurt. We only played him in limited minutes until he got healthy, then we balled our arses off!
     
  10. Doctor Kajita

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    I have been disappointed with Baron's performance thus far, but I'm not worried. And yes, without him, the W's would be in far worse shape than we are now.

    I think Baron is nursing his hammy back to 100% slowly but surely; it's only November, remember that. For the W's to make the playoffs, they need to stay afloat for the first half of the season (basically play .500 ball) and then turn it on in the second half...hopefully sooner, but realistically, I think since the W's are very young and have been slowed by various injuries not only to Baron, it will take them half a season to 'get in the groove.'

    With that said, I think Baron's stats will be much more solid by the end of the season.
     
  11. Gohn

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    Yeah, I think that they the team will really step up their game once they get some practice time and get some time off from the amount of games that htey have played this month. I think that's when they can implement some major adjustments to their offense and defense. It'll also give Dunleavy some time to work things out. I think with so many games played he is getting tossed in without too much of a chance to figure out for himself what is wrong.

    As for Baron, rest will be the best thing for him.
     

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