would choose Durant or Oden?<u>Bucks-Kevin Durant</u> The Bucks have Andrew Bogut, Yeah Greg Oden would be alot better, but Bogut is a excellent team player, and why fix it if its not broken? As far as SF/PF, Bobby Simmons has been out the entire season, so we dont know if hes that MIP we saw in LA. Charlie Villanueva has shown to be solid, but hes a bit inconsistant and has also been injured. He would make a great bench player, maybe getting them around 10-14ppg off the bench. The Bucks need another scoring superstar to come in with Redd. Durant fixes theres problems at the SF/PF spot.<u>Philly-Greg Oden</u> Philly has Andre Igoudala, Rodney Carney, and Kyle Korver at the 2's and 3's. They have Samuel Dalembert and Steven Hunter in the frontcourt. Its obvious they need a better...and eventually a star big man to pair up with Iggy. Oden will bring instant defense, and him and Sammy D. would make an itimidating frontcourt. Noted earlier, they have no need for another good SF like Durant, but they do need a true big man...Odens the pick.<u>Memphis-Oden</u> If Pau Gasol gets traded, Memphis will be looking for another franchise player, which we wouldnt get in return of the trade. Going from Pau Gasol to Greg Oden is defiently the way to do it. Unlikely to come out and score like Pau, Oden will defiently bring a defensive presence. It might take 2-3 yrs for him, but he can develop into an offensive force. Until then, Rudy Gay, Mike Miller, and Hakim Warrick could easily pick up the scoring. If Pau Gasol isnt traded, Memphis would easily have the best frontcourt in the NBA. With Gasols offense, and Oden defense...they could be unstoppable together. Not to mention Gasol is the offensive machine Oden can learn from. Memphis could have a very large lineup with this, and could dominate half-court, and fast-paced teams.<u>Portland-Kevin Durant</u> Portland has a really good, young and rising frontcourt already. Randolph has been a monster this season, and Aldridge has shown he can become a real threat downlow. Portland, short on SFs, Darius Miles hurting the team, and Travis Outlaw not becoming what he could, Durant could fit perfectly into Portland. Portland would now have a nice defensive presence, while have one of the most efficent offenses in the league.<u>Chicago-Kevin Durant</u> Okay, I based this off of Durant playing at the 4 spot. The one and only weakness the Bulls have is low-post offense. Greg Oden isnt going to come in and immediately give them that. Durant, at the 4 spot can. He has a very good low post game, as well as outside game. Him with Ben Wallace would be magical.<u>Charlotte-Kevin Durant</u> Greg Oden and Emeka Okafor are cut from the same cloth. Charlotte has a very good PF in Sean May, they need a Durant type of player mostly. Yeah they have Morrison and Wallace, but Wallace nor Morrison will ever become the Kevin Durant type of scorer. Durant can be that player who takes over games for the team...Morrison nor Wallace can do that.<u>Boston-Greg Oden</u> Why the hell would Boston take Durant? They have Al Jefferson at the 4, and Gerald Green/Paul Pierce at the 3. They need a true center...and Oden would be perfect. Plus, Oden in green looks quite familiar right?.....<u>Phoenix-Kevin Durant</u> Nash+Durant=History<u>Sacramento-Greg Oden</u> The Kings have a good SF...crazy, but Artest is a allstar. Kings get their scoring from Bibby and K-Mart. Their center is Brad Miller though, who isnt known for his defense. Move Miller to the PF, and Oden in the middle...the kings have a bright future.<u>Atlanta-Greg Oden</u> They have scorers, they have good wingplayers, they dont need a Kevin Durant....but they lack big men, and who else is better to start with is a future-legend Greg Oden.I think more teams would pick Durant than people realize. Please dont put San Antonio-Durant...cause SA will never have that pick. Phoenix got theres from ATL.
Ugh, you know nothing about the Bucks once again. We have not had a defensive presense in the paint in over 15 years, we have lived off perimeter scoring for the last 10 years. If the Bucks had the 1st pick they'd be foolish to pick Durant. I'm been telling this to Bucks fans for months now. If we pick up Kevin Durant, 85% of our offense is between Redd/Durant. Andrew Bogut would not get the touches he wants, Charlie Villanueva wouldn't get the touches he wants. In other words, if we pick Durant, we have a lot of problems on offense. We don't need more scorers, we already have Redd who can put up 28ppg, we have Maurice Williams and Charlie Villanueva and Andrew Bogut who can all put up 15ppg. Scoring isn't the problem, it's post defense, we don't have a shotblocker or post defender on the roster. Greg Oden would give us that, I love Durant but he's just not a good fit for our team. We might be one of the top 5 scoring teams in the NBA but we will give up a ton of points as always. And we already have 3 SF's on contract for next season, Bobby Simmons (Who has shown he's very capible last year at SF), Ersan Ilyasova and David Noel. If we got Oden, we would have a solid 4 man rotation with Oden, Bogut, Villanueva and Skinner. Bogut can play PF, he did it last year just fine. The Bucks need a shotblocker/defender...we already have plenty of scorers. I don't think Kevin Durant wants to split shots with Michael Redd.
why would I know anyhting about the Bucks..they're boring. But like I stated, why draft a center, when your center, Bogut, is going to be very good.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ Mar 18 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why would I know anyhting about the Bucks..they're boring. But like I stated, why draft a center, when your center, Bogut, is going to be very good.</div> We need a dominant defensive presense, like I explained in my above post. Andrew bogut can play PF like I said above, Charlie Villanueva is better off the bench.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (austingriz @ Mar 18 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>why would I know anyhting about the Bucks..they're boring. But like I stated, why draft a center, when your center, Bogut, is going to be very good.</div>When your in the NBA, there really isn't much difference between the 5 and 4 spots, a natural center could easily slide over and play power forward, just like most power forwards could easily slide over and play center in the NBA. Just look at Tim Duncan who was a center in college, and the Spurs took him even though they had Robinson, and had Duncan move the 4 spot. There really is not alot of difference there. As BCB stated, the Bucks would be absolutely stupid to draft Durant over Oden. They have a wealth of wing scorers and shooters, they have NO low post defense. With Oden they would get that, as well as a rebounding force on the boards. He would open this team up to a WHOLE lot more.
I honestly cant see one team picking Durant over Oden. I think if given the chance, every team would take Oden over Durant. The only exception I think would be Phoenix. Marion could be on his way out in the near future and Oden really wouldnt fit well in Phoenix's system. I dont see any one team doesn't pick Oden. Even if they have a big already, like Valo said, you can move a guy over. Look at Orlando, they have Dwight, they woul still take Oden and move Howard over at the four. The Bucks would do the same with Bogut as would almost any other team. Team's like Miami would take Oden because they have aging centers in Shaq and Mourning who will be retired within 5 years from now. Every other team Oden would be an upgrade. The one team that intrigues me on this would be Houston since they have very great skill players at both the positions. The one thing they dont have is great play at the 4 spot, so I'm guessing they would take one of the two and make him a four. Durant at this point would be broken by NBA fours, so I think they too would take Oden and have him play alongside Yao. It would be somewhat deja vu with the Rockets since they did at one time have two 7 footers playing the four and five spot in Hakeem and Ralph Sampson.
I think Houston would take Kevin Durant, like PJ said Oden would be the choice for almost every team, I think 20+ teams would take Oden out of need for a defensive presense. I think when you look Houston and how McGrady has been so fishy with his future after his contract is up....I think you have to take him, because at least you have Yao. McGrady has said he will retire among other things when his deal is up.... Outside of Houston, Orlando and Pheonix I think Oden would be a choice...although Houston and a lot of teams don't have a lottery bid so it doesn't matter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pjcolpitts? @ Mar 19 2007, 11:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I honestly cant see one team picking Durant over Oden. I think if given the chance, every team would take Oden over Durant. The only exception I think would be Phoenix. Marion could be on his way out in the near future and Oden really wouldnt fit well in Phoenix's system. I dont see any one team doesn't pick Oden. Even if they have a big already, like Valo said, you can move a guy over. Look at Orlando, they have Dwight, they woul still take Oden and move Howard over at the four. The Bucks would do the same with Bogut as would almost any other team. Team's like Miami would take Oden because they have aging centers in Shaq and Mourning who will be retired within 5 years from now. Every other team Oden would be an upgrade. The one team that intrigues me on this would be Houston since they have very great skill players at both the positions. The one thing they dont have is great play at the 4 spot, so I'm guessing they would take one of the two and make him a four. Durant at this point would be broken by NBA fours, so I think they too would take Oden and have him play alongside Yao. It would be somewhat deja vu with the Rockets since they did at one time have two 7 footers playing the four and five spot in Hakeem and Ralph Sampson.</div>There are exceptions, and a few teams that I think would be stupid to take Oden over Durant. I would be furios if the Magic somehow got the first pick, and took Oden over Durant. Our biggest problem is a scorer on the wings, that can take over games and hit the three consistently. If we had a game breaker like that on the wings, this team would be set, and pull out alot more games. Howard and Milicic can handle the low post for us, along with Battie, Ariza can't shoulder a scoring load like Durant can though. So it would be stupid for the Magic to take Oden over Durant. The Bobcats if they get first pick, I believe would be better suited taking Durant over Oden. Their low post is set with a solid, and deep rotation. Okafor, May, Brezec, Hollins, and Voskhul have that on lock, so for them getting another big man would be a little ridiculous. I know they took Morrison last year, but he isn't half the scorer that Durant is, he isn't half the athlete Durant is, and he isn't even a quarter the rebounder Durant is. With the Sonics maybe going to loose Rashard Lewis this offseason, they will need to fill his spot, as well as they have a huge low post reserve after drafting Saer Sene this offseason, having Wilcox, Swift, Collison, and Petro all under contract, another big would be about dumb in my opinion. A guy on the wing that can score would be much better. So I believe those are two teams that would be better suited taking Durant over Oden.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 19 2007, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>With the Sonics maybe going to loose Rashard Lewis this offseason, they will need to fill his spot, as well as they have a huge low post reserve after drafting Saer Sene this offseason, having Wilcox, Swift, Collison, and Petro all under contract, another big would be about dumb in my opinion. A guy on the wing that can score would be much better. So I believe those are two teams that would be better suited taking Durant over Oden.</div> Well, I can see your point, but I do disagree about Seattle. Yes, they have a lot of bigs, but none of the centers make a serious impact like Oden would. Swift tore his ACL, who knows how long it will take him to return to form. Sene is still a D-League caliber player, he's just too raw. Petro is a 10th man type of guy right now. Wilcox and Collison need to get minutes, but they can share minutes at the 4 if they bring in a guy like Oden. Even if you exclude Rashard Lewis from the mix, Seattle still has some scorers. Ray Allen is obviously one of the best wing players in the NBA, Ridnour can create offense for himself and others, Watson is a shooter, Damien Wilkins is really coming along, Chris Wilcox is very explosive, Collison is a clean-up man. They don't have great offense, minus Lewis, but it's not as bad as their defense. What Seattle is lacking is defense. I think Seattle would be best taking Oden, whether Lewis re-signs or not. EDIT: By the way, it's great to see you back, valo. :dribble:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (valo35 @ Mar 19 2007, 08:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When your in the NBA, there really isn't much difference between the 5 and 4 spots, a natural center could easily slide over and play power forward, just like most power forwards could easily slide over and play center in the NBA. Just look at Tim Duncan who was a center in college, and the Spurs took him even though they had Robinson, and had Duncan move the 4 spot. There really is not alot of difference there. As BCB stated, the Bucks would be absolutely stupid to draft Durant over Oden. They have a wealth of wing scorers and shooters, they have NO low post defense. With Oden they would get that, as well as a rebounding force on the boards. He would open this team up to a WHOLE lot more.</div>I know PF an C arent that much different...I was basing it on Durant able to play PF, and he can interchange in out at SF and PF with Charlie V, and Bucks have a Andrew Bogut, who is going to be a very good center. Durant isnt a bad choice, but I see where BCB comes from saying Oden would be better. Picking Durant would never be stupid....
