I think since Shaq is starting to age, it is in the best interest to try to keep kobe instead of shaq and trade shaq. My suggestion would be to trade shaq to indiana for jermaine o neal and al harrington or austin croshere. Also in the free agent market they should try to get erick dampier as their center. Jermaine o neal couild play the power forward position. I think they should also try to get more free agent signings like maybe brent barry and others to fill up the needs of this laker team. The lakers need to get rid of fox, hopefully gary leaves, brian cook, jamal sampson, george if they can too. What do you guys think?
Okay well. I will post something. Indiana will never swap oneal's. shaq is aging and demands to be overpaid on his next contract and the jemaine is a star in his prime and is only getting better. Not to mention the fact that a Oneal swap probally wont work based on salary wise
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RocketGuru:</div><div class="quote_post">Okay well. I will post something. Indiana will never swap oneal's. shaq is aging and demands to be overpaid on his next contract and the jemaine is a star in his prime and is only getting better. Not to mention the fact that a Oneal swap probally wont work based on salary wise</div> Well I didn't just say oneal for oneal. I said indiana could throw in another player like al harrington or austin croshere. ANYONE!!! Think about it, Indiana is going after tracy mcgrady this summer and rumors are already spreading about ron artest, bender, and someone else for mcgrady. If Indiana get shaq, then it'll be a better 1-2 punch with mcgrady and shaq than artest and jermaine. I think with mcgrady and shaq, they have a better chance to come out of the east next year. Also shaq only has 2 more years left in his contract so after 2 years indiana can dump him and get 30 mil under the cap to sign anyone. This also helps the lakers as well becuz if the lakers retain kobe, then he can play along side another star in jermaine. I think kobe knows that he needs at least another superstar to help him and that he wouldn't have won those championships without shaq. Kobe wouldn't have to play with shaq who he doesn't like and of course the lakers could then go for dampier to fill the center spot who is fairly decent.
I said that i dont think indiana will swap Oneals, especially not jermaine + harrington or artest or anyone. I dont think they would do it straight up 1 for 1. i know i wouldnt. If shaq cant play with kobe what makes you think he can play with T-Mac. Shaqs ego is just to big.
I have a feeling shaq is gonna go to orlando via a 3-way trade with T-mac going to the other team, whoever it is.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RocketGuru:</div><div class="quote_post">I have a feeling shaq is gonna go to orlando via a 3-way trade with T-mac going to the other team, whoever it is.</div> There is no way shaq will play for orlando. Shaq wants to play on a winning team remember. It will take years for orlando to rebuild and with him aging he won't be there long enough to see it happen. Why wouldn't indiana do it? They might want to win now and like I said theres nothing wrong with winning NOW!!!! They can just dump shaq in 2 years if they don't like him. Trading to Orlando is a bad idea. Shaq remembers why he left orlando in the first place and it is because the magic weren't willing to pay shaq all that money so he left. It woudl be illogical to go back there. Just becuz shaq and kobe didn't get along well doesn't mean that shaq won't get along with anyone else. I don't think you consider shaq to be a cancer to a team right?!?!?!? Think about shaq when he was in Orlando. Him and penny hardaway were like the 1-2 unstoppable combo. You never heard shaq say that he wanted to be traded becuz penny hardaway passed it to dennis scott too much. It just doesn't make sense. I don't think any other team can offer anythign that the lakers would want. Give some suggestions cuz I don't think the lakers are goign to trade to a team in the WEST because they don't want to play shaq 4 times a season.
Well sense this is my first post, i want to start off fresh... Indinia will not take Shaq for Jermaine... Shag although has 3 or 4 more good years, Jermaine has about 7 or 8... they still believe Jermaine is only going to get better and trade him for Shaq would not benefit there franchise becuase Jermaine is there franchise player...
Only a idiot would trade Jermaine for Shaq. Shaq has said he would like going back to orlando. When you sit back and look at it. That is the only way I see them moving Shaq. Might be wrong sure. But shaq will not go to Indiana for Jermaine Oneal that is for sure. Shaq probally only has 1 or 2 dominate years left he is already slowing down. It taked alot of energy to lug that frame around and shaq is not exactly a Gym rat. There is plenty out there the lakers would like to get for shaq but truth is, no team is gonna give up a young superstar player for shaq, unless they have to. AKA Mcgrady. But L.A. does not want mcgrady therefore the 3 way deal i think will happen No i dont think shaq is a cancer, but first you have to consider some things. 1. Some of the problems Shaq had with kobe was because of the way he played, Mcgrady has the same type of game as Kobe. 2. Shaq's Ego is a hell of alot bigger now, In orlando he was not even the best center in the league, Hakeem was still the dominate center. 3. I personnaly feel that shaq really does not care about winning another ring that much. Just look at his effort in the finals. I got the felling he just didnt care anymore. 4 Shaq is still the best player in the league, but not for much longer
Indiana would not likely swap O'Neals, especially if they were to have to throw in their 6th man in Al Harrington. I wouldn't either. Shaq is 32, Jermaine is what, 27? Slight age gap. Plus, Jermaine is still in his prime and Shaq is slowly fading out of his. Granted the Pacers would be a dominant team in either conference with Shaq and it'd give them a great chance at a title, I don't see it happening.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ericdabbs:</div><div class="quote_post">There is no way shaq will play for orlando. Shaq wants to play on a winning team remember. It will take years for orlando to rebuild and with him aging he won't be there long enough to see it happen. Why wouldn't indiana do it? They might want to win now and like I said theres nothing wrong with winning NOW!!!! They can just dump shaq in 2 years if they don't like him. Trading to Orlando is a bad idea. Shaq remembers why he left orlando in the first place and it is because the magic weren't willing to pay shaq all that money so he left. It woudl be illogical to go back there.</div> Indiana has a chance to win it NOW! with Jermaine/Artest etc... they just need another top scorer besides Jermaine, u just need to add pieces to the puzzle instead of ripping it all apart
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ericdabbs:</div><div class="quote_post">There is no way shaq will play for orlando. Shaq wants to play on a winning team remember. It will take years for orlando to rebuild and with him aging he won't be there long enough to see it happen. Why wouldn't indiana do it? They might want to win now and like I said theres nothing wrong with winning NOW!!!! They can just dump shaq in 2 years if they don't like him. Trading to Orlando is a bad idea. Shaq remembers why he left orlando in the first place and it is because the magic weren't willing to pay shaq all that money so he left. It woudl be illogical to go back there. Just becuz shaq and kobe didn't get along well doesn't mean that shaq won't get along with anyone else. I don't think you consider shaq to be a cancer to a team right?!?!?!? Think about shaq when he was in Orlando. Him and penny hardaway were like the 1-2 unstoppable combo. You never heard shaq say that he wanted to be traded becuz penny hardaway passed it to dennis scott too much. It just doesn't make sense. I don't think any other team can offer anythign that the lakers would want. Give some suggestions cuz I don't think the lakers are goign to trade to a team in the WEST because they don't want to play shaq 4 times a season.</div> Your information is wrong. First of all, this stuff has been discussed in plenty oif other threads when the info came out. This is old new. Shaq has requested a trade, Jackson is gone, and Kobe will likely stay. Shaq, in the case, would very likely go to a place like Orlando. He never said about wanting tyo be on a winning team. he wants to be ona team where he looks the best. Not to mention he actually said the he would like to go to orlando There wont be a trade to Indiana. I wouldnt work. Indiana has some of the best players in the league, with reggie, artest, o'neal and croshere. None of the trades are good ones. Artest and O'neal for sHAQ? those 2 are worth much more than shaq. the only options are some crappy east teams, which is where Shaq plans to go to.
I thought about something. Say the lakers trade shaq to orlando. The lakers could get back tracy mcgrady and maybe juwan howard or maybe even the number 1 pick as well. If they get the number 1 pick they can draft okafor. When the lakers get tracy mcgrady they can talk to indiana to trade since they are one of teams interested in him and trade for maybe jermaine oneal since kobe and mcgrady could never coexist with each other. Maybe the lakers could also package someone else with tracy mcgrady and get maybe austin croshere or al harrington. Since mcgrady and jermaine are both young and also their salaries are pretty similar, it will sound more appealing than shaq. Do you think this will work? I might sound like a jermaine oneal fanatic but really if we give up shaq, the lakers need a big man and I think jermaine would be a good fit for the lakers and kobe.
Mcgrady and the number #1 pick? get off the drugs man. Maybe mcgrady for Shaq straight-up, if they can make the numbers work
Also, the Pacers are already offering a lot for just T--Mac (Tinsley, Artest, Harrington, and some others)... I would say just send us O'Neal and Artest... LOL... That would be the day!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RocketGuru:</div><div class="quote_post">Mcgrady and the number #1 pick? get off the drugs man. Maybe mcgrady for Shaq straight-up, if they can make the numbers work</div> Make the numbers work? Do you know how much mcgrady and shaq make?!?!??!?! I don't think you know that shaq makes like 30 million and mcgrady makes around 14-15 million. How the F are you going to make up 15 million without adding more players or draft picks to the deal?? Think about it. So NOOOOOOOO you cannot trade shaq 1 for 1. Maybe they can get like juwan howard as well or something. Trust me, I wouldn't mind just trading shaq for mcgrady because the lakers can really use that extra 15 million in cap space to spend on free agents rather than on some crappy bench players but becuz of the stupid salary cap rules they can't do that. Don't you understand how it works becuase if you did you wouldn't have made such a nonsense post that could never work.
you are thinking ahead of yourself buddy... shaq and t-mac a 1-2 punch in Indiana i think Larry Bird just had a wet dream anyways if shaq and t-mac were to unite it would be in the 2005-2006 season in orlando...it is almost clear that t-mac will be out of orlando by draft night because they dont want him to pull a shaq next season and let him go for nothing...so lets stop thinking NBA live kind of trades where you get kobe,t-mac,garnett and shaq on the same team and open ur eyes to reality...after the finals were over i was thinking for the lakers...sign and trade kobe to dallas for nash and daniels...sign q-rich...draft kris humprhies....i was seeing a finals run pg-nash(13 mil a season)his contract would have take the place of kobe's sg-daniels(min salary) sf-q-rich(probably around 7 mil salary)his contract would have taken the place of malone and fishers and paytons contracts combined pf-humprhies(700,000 salary) c-shaq(32 mil salary)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kobe35plus:</div><div class="quote_post">you are thinking ahead of yourself buddy... shaq and t-mac a 1-2 punch in Indiana i think Larry Bird just had a wet dream anyways if shaq and t-mac were to unite it would be in the 2005-2006 season in orlando...it is almost clear that t-mac will be out of orlando by draft night because they dont want him to pull a shaq next season and let him go for nothing...so lets stop thinking NBA live kind of trades where you get kobe,t-mac,garnett and shaq on the same team and open ur eyes to reality...after the finals were over i was thinking for the lakers...sign and trade kobe to dallas for nash and daniels...sign q-rich...draft kris humprhies....i was seeing a finals run pg-nash(13 mil a season)his contract would have take the place of kobe's sg-daniels(min salary) sf-q-rich(probably around 7 mil salary)his contract would have taken the place of malone and fishers and paytons contracts combined pf-humprhies(700,000 salary) c-shaq(32 mil salary) </div> U think im crazy. Trading kobe for nash and daniels a fair deal? If you would do that deal than you should never be a manager even on a fantasy league. Signing q-rich and get kris humphries is gonna solve all the lakers problems? This laker team has more problems that need to be addressed and is not solved by signing 2 players. Don't forget the lakers tried mark madsen and he turned out to be a bust. You obviously did not get my post since I said to get rid of shaq NOT kobe. Whoever said anything about NBA live trades? Only someone like you would think of something stupid like that. Dont put words into my mouth buddy, I never set up the lakers to be a dream team dumbass with 5 superstars on a team. You said it right. Larry Bird would have a wet dream so why wouldn't Indiana do it if it could help them out a lot and had the opportunity to. Your statements don't make sense. You are suppose to persuade me that indiana should not try to get mcgrady and oneal. BTW if you think just getting nash will get the lakers back into the finals..you are dreaming man.
Kobe for nash and daniels is a shitty deal. The lakers need a hell of alot more than 2 players <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ericdabbs:</div><div class="quote_post">The last thing the lakers need is another white power forward </div>And I see a hit of racism in that post, that is like bird saying the NBA is a Black man's game. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on you. Skin Color has nothing to do with Ability to play the PF spot. (or any position in sports)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting RocketGuru:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe for nash and daniels is a shitty deal. The lakers need a hell of alot more than 2 players And I see a hit of racism in that post, that is like bird saying the NBA is a Black man's game. BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO on you. Skin Color has nothing to do with Ability to play the PF spot. (or any position in sports)</div> Your right Rocketguru, the white power forward statement was a bit out of line and Im sorry if I offended anyone and Ill edit my post. However the better power forwards that come out of colleges are black. Anyways the lakers do need a big man if they get rid of shaq. I dunno how they'll get it but they need one if they do.
