What the Seahawks org. Should've Done:

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  1. Hawk

    Hawk nfl-*****s member

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    Release Matt Hasslebeck and make Trent Dilfer the starting QB because Trent Dilfer was the best backup in the league when he was one which is why he starts for the Browns and if they did do that, they would not have to worry about the salery cap as much and give Shawn Alexander a good long-term contract that has enough money to satisfty him.
     
  2. DolfanDale

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    Well, that's a bridge that was burned long ago. I'm not sure I would dump a young QB, like Matt Hasselbeck for an aging veteran that is about as good as he was ever going to get, Trent Dilfer. I'm not sure that Dilfer was the best backup in the league either.
     
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    Dilfer, like Rich Gannon, got better with age and experience, but youth is certainly a consideration. Hasselbeck can be the man in Seattle for another five or six years. If they kept Dilfer, they'd probably be looking at two or three, tops.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure that Dilfer was the best backup in the league either.</div>

    Well, he's the only backup (at least that I know) that won a Super Bowl. He did it in 2000 for the Ravens.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Well, he's the only backup (at least that I know) that won a Super Bowl. He did it in 2000 for the Ravens.</div>

    That's an excellent point.

    I think Dale was probably thinking of guys like Billy Volek and John Kitna, though. I'd probably rather have one of those guys...
     
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    The only problem with your idea tyler is how would they get Dilfer, the Browns wouldnt give up Dilfer because he is their starter
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The only problem with your idea tyler is how would they get Dilfer</div>

    The Seahawks HAD Dilfer for the past few seasons. They gave him up this off-season because he had a chance to start. Holmgren didn't want to hold his career back.
     
  8. DolfanDale

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hawk)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not sure that Dilfer was the best backup in the league either.</div>

    Well, he's the only backup (at least that I know) that won a Super Bowl. He did it in 2000 for the Ravens.</div>

    Trent Dilfer WON that Super Bowl for the Ravens? I disagree. I believe that Trent Dilfer did a great job of NOT LOSING that Super Bowl, but make no mistake, the Ravens defense won that Super Bowl. I'm not trying to hate on Dilfer however. I do think he makes a great backup QB, but I disagreed with the Browns bringing him in to be a starting QB. I think he's too old to build a team around. The only way he should be brought in anywhere to start is if you have a solid team that needs a QB right away.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think he's too old to build a team around. The only way he should be brought in anywhere to start is if you have a solid team that needs a QB right away.</div>

    Didn't they bring in Trent to QB for a year or two so he could mentor Charlie Frye?
     
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    I disagree. Dilfer provided what the Browns desperately needed...Stability under center. Dilfer's stat line looks decent this year. He doesn't have to win every game, and he usually doesn't force balls and cause numerous turnovers that will kill a team. He is steady, and dependable. Maybe not stellar, but it is a far sight better than the QB carosel that the Browns have had recently. Dilfer is a role player and can win games by simply playing his role. I don't think anyone expected the Browns to contend this year, but since the Bengals weren't offering to let Kitna waltz out of the Queen city, I think Dilfer was a fine choice for Cleveland.

    Oh, and by the way, welcome to the forums Hawk!
     
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    WOW!! Hasselback has played well this year. Seattle beat the Rams. There in the West. No need to complain.

    Edit: I kind of see your point. You think that by cutting Hasselback that there would be enough money to give Alexander probably the best RB in the NFC a long term deal. I guess it kind of makes sense but cutting him. How about trading him. Either way the cap hit will still hurt. I don't know the exact numbers but I got to think they might be able to afford both which would be best for the organization.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. Dilfer provided what the Browns desperately needed...Stability under center. Dilfer's stat line looks decent this year. He doesn't have to win every game, and he usually doesn't force balls and cause numerous turnovers that will kill a team. He is steady, and dependable. Maybe not stellar, but it is a far sight better than the QB carosel that the Browns have had recently. Dilfer is a role player and can win games by simply playing his role. I don't think anyone expected the Browns to contend this year, but since the Bengals weren't offering to let Kitna waltz out of the Queen city, I think Dilfer was a fine choice for Cleveland.

    Oh, and by the way, welcome to the forums Hawk!</div>

    What kind of time frame do you think the Browns are looking at until they want a contender? Trent Dilfer is already 33. I'm just not crazy about rebuilding a team around QBs over 30 years old, but perhaps the Browns think they will be contending before Dilfer's skills start declining. I just think Trent Dilfer would be a better fit for an already contending team that needs a QB, but has limited options.

    Ditto, Hawk! Welcome to the forums.
     
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    I think they just want Difler to fill in for a couple of years until Charlie Frye (who had an exceptional preseason) is ready to take over.

    And if Dilfer happens to be still playing well, then there is a position battle at QB which every team would love to have. If not however, they let Frye take over and bench Dilfer
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kcgsc)</div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. Dilfer provided what the Browns desperately needed...Stability under center. Dilfer's stat line looks decent this year. He doesn't have to win every game, and he usually doesn't force balls and cause numerous turnovers that will kill a team. He is steady, and dependable. Maybe not stellar, but it is a far sight better than the QB carosel that the Browns have had recently. Dilfer is a role player and can win games by simply playing his role. I don't think anyone expected the Browns to contend this year, but since the Bengals weren't offering to let Kitna waltz out of the Queen city, I think Dilfer was a fine choice for Cleveland.

    Oh, and by the way, welcome to the forums Hawk!</div>

    What kind of time frame do you think the Browns are looking at until they want a contender? Trent Dilfer is already 33. I'm just not crazy about rebuilding a team around QBs over 30 years old, but perhaps the Browns think they will be contending before Dilfer's skills start declining. I just think Trent Dilfer would be a better fit for an already contending team that needs a QB, but has limited options.

    Ditto, Hawk! Welcome to the forums.</div>

    The Browns did use a 2nd round pick on Charlie Fyre from Akron. I am guessing that Dilfer is there to kind of mentor him for the starting job next year. It's the right move if the Browns are planning on going with Fyre. When there out of contention though I would assume they'd have to play Fyre and get him ready for next season. Since thats the approach most organizations take.
     
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    Besides at end of last year there were 2 backups who were super bowl champ starting QBs warner and dilfer, and warner actually was intregal in the rams super bowl.
     
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    BTW...Welcome to the boards Hawk! We need some Seattle fans!
     
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    Yeah thanks everyone. Am I the only Seattle fan on this site?
     
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    So far! That's ok though. I don't have much company in the Chiefs forum either.
     
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    All we need now is a couple of Houston Texans Fans
     
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    Welcome Hawk...We definitely need the diversity.

    As for the Browns grabbing Dilfer I thought that was a great move. Get a good Solid Veteran that will buy into your system and show all the young guys how much caring about the team and wanting to win out weighs statiscs and personal glory. Its a perfect way to build the foundation of your team while he helps pave the way for Charlie Frye. Nevermind that the Browns haven't been an absolute Joke now that they have a good QB to keep them from getting blown out by forcing things.

    As for Seattle I think they absolutely made the right move keeping Hasselbeck. He is a very solid and younger QB that can only get better with receivers that can actually catch the ball. I don't know how many time last season I saw Jackson and Robinson drop balls in key situations.
     

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