What would it take to get Lowry?

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  1. magnifier661

    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    I feel like I might be the only one still happy we have Mo WIlliams on this team. That ship sure floated away quickly.
     
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  3. magnifier661

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    I love me some Mo, but Lowry is a true PG that can score to boot. He is much better than Mo, IMO.
     
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    "true" PG? He's not all that different from Mo this season passing the ball. Lowry's stats on top, Mo next

    GP
    19
    21
    MPG
    36.7
    24.9
    APG
    6.8
    4.3
    Passes per game
    68.9
    42.4
    Total AST
    130
    90
    FT Assists per game
    .6
    .2
    Secondary Assists per game
    .9
    .7

    Assist opportunities per game
    13.5
    8.3

    Points created by assist per game
    15.7
    10.2
    Points Created by AST Per 48 Min
    20.5
    19.7
     
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    To me, the last thing we need is another guard, especially if CJ is coming back soon. I'm still happy with Mo for the most part.
     
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    I'm not sure if we have much to interest them in a one-to-one trade. He has an expiring deal so we'd have to give back promising prospects, picks, or cap relief for this season (so give them back less than 6M). We can't deal any first rounders, I'm not sure a 2nd rounder would do it, and our prospects pool that we'd want to give up is a bit thin.

    One would have to come up with a scenario where we give up a guy or two to another team, they send a cheaper player and a player exception to Toronto and we take on Lowry's contract.
     
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    Samuel James “Hollywood” Robinson

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    Totally agree. The rub with trading scenarios is we don't really know what we have until CJ comes back but he won't be back until after that December date that eliminates trade deadline possibilities.
     
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    Stats might be similar, but defensively I see Lowry creating quite a bit of separation and they play the game very differently. Lowry is more of a pick-and-roll player, whereas Mo is probably more of a pull-up shooter. I know Mo's assist numbers look OK, but I don't think he does a great job of getting bigs involved, I suspect Lowry would be a a help for guys like Freeland, Lopez and Robinson on pick and rolls or pick and pop situations.
     
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    We definitely don't need another guard at this point. We could use some depth at center and that's about it.
     
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    You guys realize that we'd have to ship someone out - likely a guard, and even more likely it'd be Mo plus another player - in order to get Lowry, right? So he wouldn't be an addition to our back court, he'd be a replacement.
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    I don't see the need for a depth at center as mutually exclusive; I think we need both.
     
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    Yup - one back-up PG and one more C (either starting or back-up).
    I still wonder if we should take a chance on Kendall Marshall. Low risk, since he wouldn't play any minutes unless he earned them. I'd cut Barton to take a chance on Marshall.
    Then somehow make a trade for Drummond and we end up with Robinson (#5), Lillard (36), Drummond (#9), and Marshall (#13)! Maybe swap CJ for Lamb (who we should have taken instead of Leonard!)? Haha!
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    It would take Olshey having a frontal lobotomy. If your car's running great, no need to change the spark plugs...
     
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    But how about the timing belt? You just wait for it to break before you change it out?
     
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    Nikolokolus There's always next year

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    Mo isn't playing great. In fact you could argue he's barely above replacement level.
     
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    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Absolutely, unless you must venture out of the area in which your insurance will cover towing your car to your favorite mechanic, in which case it might be worth being proactive rather than reactive...
     
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    In support, let me say this: Who do people think will be coming off the bench for the Blazers in 2 years?

    Hint: it probably won't be Mo and Joel.

     
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    I'm gonna have to agree with you on this. I have hope Mo will come around and do well, but his turn over issue is a huge problem. Also, I don't like how he has become so "crawford-like" with ISO shooting as well. If he could just distribute more and get Dame involved at SG, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
     
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