What would you do if you were the Clippers' GM?

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  1. winclips

    winclips JBB JustBBall Member

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    I really like Maggette but hes not really fitting in anymore. He needs to play for a team where he can let lose and run like NJ. Trade Corey Maggette and Al Throton plus a pick for Vince carter and Josh Boone.

    07 starters
    B. Knight
    V. Carter
    Q. Ross
    E. Brand (if healthy)
    C. Kaman
    6th man C. Mobley

    Ok how about Maggette, Tim Thomas maybe a pick for Michael Redd and a second round pick..
    We need an outside shooter. we have the inside game. Rashard Lewis would have been the perfect fit.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">winclips Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I really like Maggette but hes not really fitting in anymore. He needs to play for a team where he can let lose and run like NJ. Trade Corey Maggette and Al Throton plus a pick for Vince carter and Josh Boone.

    07 starters
    B. Knight
    V. Carter
    Q. Ross
    E. Brand (if healthy)
    C. Kaman
    6th man C. Mobley

    Ok how about Maggette, Tim Thomas maybe a pick for Michael Redd and a second round pick..
    We need an outside shooter. we have the inside game. Rashard Lewis would have been the perfect fit.</div>

    The Clippers are in a precarious position because of the injury to Elton Brand. Ideally it's probably time for this team to blow it up and start over. Ship out Cassell, Tim Thomas, and Mobley. Use this year to develop Korolev, Thornton Davis, and Kaman.

    Elton Brand isn't going to be back for at least 6 months. He could possibly miss the entire season, and he has a clause in his contract to opt out next season.

    Trading Corey Maggette is also tough, because of two factors.

    1. He's under paid for his production, so it's hard to get a player of equal value back, with the type of money they're paying Maggette.

    2. He can also opt out of his current deal this summer, and he has already made it known he plans to do so. There's been some friction with him and Dunleavy on Maggette's role with the team, and he's going to look for a team willing to give him more touches on offense and starter minutes.

    Teams interested in Maggette can simply wait until this summer to sign him without having to trade anything in return for him.

    The Clippers made a mistake last year when they had the opportunity to trade for Allen Iverson. He could have kept them in the picture with Brand out this season, and the Clippers would have made the playoffs last year.

    If I were the GM I would find out what it would take to get Jermain O'Neal in a Clipper uniform and make anyone outside of Brand available for him.
     
  3. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">winclips Wrote</div><div class="quote_post">I really like Maggette but hes not really fitting in anymore. He needs to play for a team where he can let lose and run like NJ. Trade Corey Maggette and Al Throton plus a pick for Vince carter and Josh Boone.

    07 starters
    B. Knight
    V. Carter
    Q. Ross
    E. Brand (if healthy)
    C. Kaman
    6th man C. Mobley

    Ok how about Maggette, Tim Thomas maybe a pick for Michael Redd and a second round pick..
    We need an outside shooter. we have the inside game. Rashard Lewis would have been the perfect fit.</div>
    The other teams wouldn't do these deals. Why would New Jersey trade their #1 scorer, and best outside shooter out of their main options for a guy who is basically in a similar skil level to Jefferson. Maggette is a SF, not a SG, so New Jersey trades an all-round SG for another SF who doesn't have the passing or shooting skills of their guy, and even isn't as good a scorer.

    The Bucks again wouldn't do it. They just signed Desmond Mason and have Bobby Simmons. Maggette is not a better scorer than Redd, not close to the shooter, and while he can claim to have a better all-round game, is not a more impactful player. He's also again, not a SG, Milwaukee would be trading a SG for a SF.

    The Clippers should've traded Maggette when his value was higher, he wasn't having problems with the coach, and he hadn't said he would opt out. His value could go up with him getting more touches and shots this season, but right now it isn't that high. The good thing about his opt out is that he is an expiring contract in a trade.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If I were the GM I would find out what it would take to get Jermain O'Neal in a Clipper uniform and make anyone outside of Brand available for him.</div>
    Jermaine O'neal makes $19 million+ for 3 more seasons. Brand has an opt out after this season, and will likely exercise it to get a longer contract. Without a certainty of Brand staying, packaging guys to get Jermaine O'neal a guy I'd consider worse than Brand would be a waste of players. Just to add, I don't think Brand's injury affects his opting out, he's been a 20-10 guy who can pass and block shots his whole career, no one is going to think different, he will get paid. If the team ends up losing Brand, then it has JO with no supporting cast which is worse than just having Brand. That trade doesn't interest me. If the Clippers want to add another big man along with Brand, Pau Gasol would be the guy to go after, not Jermaine O'neal. To me he's a better player, yea he's not the defender JO is, but he's also a shot blocker, a much more efficient scorer, a far superior passer, and the same caliber of rebounder.

    If the Clippers plan isn't to blow it up, then Pau Gasol is an option, or they could look at getting a star SG type player. The problem is that there isn't one (a star SG) available for what the Clippers have, and the problem with getting Gasol is that the Clippers have nothing to offer. Maggette doesn't do much for the Grizzlies who have Rudy Gay a young guy at SF, and Mike Miller a much better shooter and passer at SG if you want to force Maggette there. Al Thornton the Clippers draft pick plays the same position as Rudy Gay, or if you try to put him at PF, and Gasol is coming to the Clippers, the same position as Hakim Warrick and/or Darko.

    The Clippers expiring contracts, Cassell and Maggette play positions that the Grizzlies don't need. The only team that would need BOTH of those players is Miami, but the Heat have nothing the Clippers want. Even if the plan is to blow it up, the Clippers won't trade them for just an expiring contract with Jason Williams and whatever else the Heat can put fort.

    I think the best plan is to keep Maggette till the trade deadline when his value will be high as he'll be putting up 20-25 PPG. At that time look to trade him for something expiring along with a draft pick, or something nice the team can get to help in the future. Sam Cassell should also be kept to drive his trade value up as he'll be a higher option on the team, and a good veteran guys teams will want. Him and Maggette can be packeged to get good value, or even traded seperately to get good value back.

    The team should look to trade Mobley also, but understand that with the 2 years he'd have remaining and his fairly decent contract, that won't be easy to do.

    Kaman will be the main option in the post, and will be allowed to play through his mistakes and earn the contract he got. He's a guy capable of at the least being a 15 PPG, 10 RPG, ~2 BPG guy with good shooting percentages. That's very good for a C in this league right now.

    Livingston will be back, and with zero pressure on him, especially if Cassell is gone.

    The Clippers will end up having a high draft pick next season, giving the team one of the nice top prospects coming in like Mayo or another SG in the Top 6. Even if it's a scoring PG, with Livingston, these guys work perfectly because he's 6'7 with long arms and can guard SG's, and even SF's if he isn't overpowered.

    Next season they'll have Livingston back, Al Thornton in his second season, hopefully an improved Kaman, Brand back on the team. I think Brevin Knight, I can't remember how long he was signed for.

    PG: Shaun Livingston / Brevin Knight / Jared Jordan
    SG: (*Draft Pick*) / Cuttino Mobley / Quinton Ross
    SF: Al Thornton / Tim Thomas
    PF: Elton Brand / Tim Thomas
    C: Chris Kaman / Paul Davis

    Possibly another draft pick gotten from trading Cassell and Maggette.

    Best case scenario: Brand, Kaman, Livingston, Tim Thomas and a good amount of quality young talent that can produce around them.

    Worst case scenario: The team losses Brand, but still has all the young guys, and pulls off a sign and trade with Brand to get something nice.
     
  4. Dark Hero

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    I'll quit...What i will do is trade either Cassell or Tim Thomas and try to get some young talent.I will not trade Brand even thought he might opt out thats a risk you have to take.
     
  5. og15

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    No one is going to trade young talent for Tim Thomas though. Maggette is the best guy if a team wants to get young talent, and that's only average young talent of course.
     
  6. SupraJames

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    Tank the season and go for Derrick Rose.... j/k, but that guy is SICK!!!!

    Yes I realize most of u probably already know who he is. I found out about him last year too but after rewatching some of his videos on youtube... hot damn!

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  7. NYC_Balla

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    okay i'm a derek rose fan now thanks for posting. nothing like a crossover to a hangtime off balance reverse layup
     

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