I don't disagree to a point? My problem is we used this excuse last year as well. The beginning of last year Billups had vets and some talent to work with and it was abysmal. He had Dame, CJ, Roco, Powell, Nurk. This year started out with some players actually winning before they got scouted fully. After that the excuse was they were too small which was valid. I started this season feeling like they still had a rookie coach because of the tank last year. What am i supposed to think to begin next year? Is Billups off the hook again because he isn't expected to put a quality effort out right now?