Would you rather have Francis or T-mac. I would like to have Francis this is because he can shoot, drive, and get the ball to Ming which is a key factor so I would take Francis. so I say Francis.
But Tmac shoots better, drives better, and passes better than Francis? And he doenst turn the ball over as much.
T Mac is a better overall player, so I have to go with T Mac, but Francis is a great player also.....it almost depends on the team
Have you watched any of the games? Tmac is doing a pretty nice job of distributing the ball for a SG. Just the other night, he posted 11 assists with 16 points and has done a great job of passing the ball to Yao and others. He's great on the clutch, scoring 32 points the other night against Clippers when Yao was ice cold. McGrady has been doing great on offense for most nights and currently is just learning Van Gundy's system and the team. Are you saying that Tmac can't shoot, drive, and getting the ball to Yao? He's been doing great on all those aspects, aside from driving, where he prefers taking jump shots more. Other than that, Tracy has been better than the Stevie last year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lebron James#23:</div><div class="quote_post">Would you rather have Francis or T-mac. I would like to have Francis this is because he can shoot, drive, and get the ball to Ming which is a key factor so I would take Francis. so I say Francis.</div> You probably haven't seen any Rockets games, last year and this year. It's obvious that Francis would not be as good as McGrady is getting the ball to Yao. Unlike Steve, Tracy has shown a willingness and wants to get Yao the ball down low. Besides, Tracy is better than Francis at almost every aspect except maybe defense. However, I wonder if we would start out 6-6 with Francis, Mobley and Cato.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lebron James#23:</div><div class="quote_post">I am still staying with francis he is a better passer no matter what team</div> Actually, you can't even compare these two on a equal level. Francis plays point guard; his job is to get people the ball. Meanwhile, McGrady is a shooting guard, which means his main job is to score, then to pass. Thus, it's without a doubt that Francis is a better passer, but I'd say even Charlie Ward is better than him at getting Yao the ball. Don't get me wrong, Francis is my favorite player, but he has not and will not flourish in the half-court offense that the Houston Rockets run.
Comparing the passing of tmac and franchise is like compatring the blocking of shaw and earl boykins. you just can't do it.
T-Mac is a much better passer than francis. 03-04 T-Mac: 5.5 APG TO 2.67 T-mac was the only real offensive option but still managed a better Assist/To Ratio than francis, Oh and he was the SG not PG. Playing a Run first offense whixh is more prone to TO's Francis: 6.2 APG TO 3.74 Francis was a PG on a team with Mobley and Yao, Playing a half-court Game, this might effect his scoring but it should not have hurt his Assist/TO Ratio. 04-05 (Yes i know it only been a few game but still lets look at the stats) T-Mac: 5.7 APG TO 3.00 T-Mac hs been basicly been consistant with his Assist/To ratio from last year. TO have gone up a bit. Francis: 6.4 APG TO 4.30 As you can see Francis Passing has actually gotten worse. even though he has Grant Hill, Mobley, Howard to go to. Conclusion T-Mac is much better at finding the open man than stevie is. T-Mac has proved he can make more with less than steve can. Stevie is a great player, but a horrible PG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Francis plays point guard; his job is to get people the ball. Meanwhile, McGrady is a shooting guard, which means his main job is to score, then to pass. </div> Sorry, but I consider him more of a shooting guard trapped into the point guard position. I dunno, he's just more of the shoot first than pass first type of player I think. It's obvious with his passing/turnover ratio. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">However, I wonder if we would start out 6-6 with Francis, Mobley and Cato.</div> We probably wouldn't, if we didn't do the T-mac trade, the chemistry would be way better than right now. Plus, I'm still regretting trading Mobley. However, even if we didn't trade him and let the Magic have Howard, I guess he would have never worked out in the system with T-mac. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Stevie is a great player, but a horrible PG.</div> My thoughts exactly.
Steve Francis is gonna have a huge year. But he shouldnt be averaging 5 TO's a game. He has G Hill who makes everyone else around him better.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">Steve Francis is gonna have a huge year. But he shouldnt be averaging 5 TO's a game. He has G Hill who makes everyone else around him better.</div> Really? McGrady didn't get better with Hill around, and it's not as if you're on the court with Hill, then your better. Jerry Stackhouse's reputation and value dropped a lot when he played with Mike in Washington. It's not about who you play with, but rather how good a passer you are. Francis obviously isn't a great passer, but he's still good enough to play point guard.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Really? McGrady didn't get better with Hill around, and it's not as if you're on the court with Hill, then your better. Jerry Stackhouse's reputation and value dropped a lot when he played with Mike in Washington. It's not about who you play with, but rather how good a passer you are. Francis obviously isn't a great passer, but he's still good enough to play point guard.</div> McGrady didnt get a chance to play with a healthy Hill. When Hill is healthy he is a threat and has to be paid attention to, thus making everyone around him better. Stackhouse's rep going down was his fault, he didnt like being 2nd fiddle to MJ. They didnt get along with each other, they were arguing behind the scenes, there was a head to head battle between them that didnt make it into the public spotlight, but was heard enough around the league to affect Stackhouse's rep.
Mobley was a tenacious defender, a Mobley Tmac combination would have been great, but only if Mobley would be willing to take the responsibility of becoming and playing the point guard position.
I would rather have T-Mac than Francis because he is more versatile. T-Mac doesn't turnover the ball as much as Francis. Francis is now lucky he has it easy in the East.
both player's start and play different positions francis plays hard all the time t-mac plays when he wants to when he's feelin that he's on fire though nobody can touch him
Id still rather have T-Mac...its becoming ever more so apparent that the problem is JVG has these guys on too tight of a leash on offense...TMac is arguably the best 1-on-1 player in the league, and JVG is restraining him...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shooter:</div><div class="quote_post">Id still rather have T-Mac...its becoming ever more so apparent that the problem is JVG has these guys on too tight of a leash on offense...TMac is arguably the best 1-on-1 player in the league, and JVG is restraining him...</div> My htoughts exactly. Tracy McGrady is arguably the best Shooting guard in the leauge and one of the best one-on-one players. JVG is restraining him and keeping him from playing his game. But I would take McGrady any day.
