Earlier I had a discussion with TheFreshPrince on AIM on Bosh and Garnett. I think that Bosh will reach the same level as or surpass KG. He said the only PF that could be considered better than Garnett was Pettit, Malone and Duncan. I aint hatin' on KG nor am i trying to start an arguement with TFP but I was just wondering what your guys' opinions are. So my question to you guys is do you think Bosh will be better than KG?
No I don't think so. Chris is very very talented, but KG is just a player that comes along once in a lifetime.
Wait til KG's career has ended then we can speak on that matter. Like Bobcats said, if CB4 somehow pulls his entire team to win a championship, then yes he is better than KG in terms of achievements.
Bosh getting a ring in Toronto???? Garnett is much better than Bosh. Don't even ask P.S.- Bosh isn't even top 10 power forwards all-time
They will put up similar numbers but Bosh will never be as versatile on the court and as dominant as KG. KG even at a young age could sometimes take over a game and Bosh has still to show the kind of passion KG is known for. KG does stuff that don't show up on the stat sheet.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NBA MAN:</div><div class="quote_post">Bosh getting a ring in Toronto???? Garnett is much better than Bosh. Don't even ask P.S.- Bosh isn't even top 10 power forwards all-time</div> The question is not who is better right now but who could end up with a better career. It's definitely too early to tell, but it's not out of the question. Bosh is putting up similar numbers as Garnett at the same point in his career. You sound like you're saying it's impossible, which it certainly isn't.
I know everyone loves to compare bosh to KG because he's pretty much the gold standard for pf's, but honestly I don't see that being bosh's game. KG has a wider skill set, bosh still has more time to develop but I just don't see him ever becoming the shot blocker or the passer that KG is. It's worth noting that KG shoots the 3 as well, something we don't see bosh do consistently (this was supposed to Toronto's project 2 years back, getting bosh to shoot the 3). I don't think that when it's all said and done you're going to be looking at two players with similar games... They are both going to have amazing careers but are going to impact the game in different ways when they are on the court. It's not to say bosh couldn't be better than KG, but I don't think this is going to happen by him playing like KG... Ultimately, I think you have to boil it down to who wins more over the course of their career (assuming they are both carrying their teams). I think what eclipse said was pretty much on point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">no.</div> Yes. And by yes I mean I agree. Bosh is not as well-rounded as KG nor will he ever be. Bosh's career high in assists is like 8, and Garnett averages around 5 a game for almost his entire career. I think Bosh is an amazing player, don't get me wrong, but Garnett is just an absolute freak of nature. I don't think anyone will come along and be comparable to the versatility and heart that Garnett brings to the game. Let's not forget that Garnett paved the way for guys like Bosh. I think a better comparison for Bosh would be Jermaine O'Neal to be honest. Bosh and O'Neal both resemble the 20-10 guy that has that soft outside touch, although Bosh's post up game isn't as refined as O'Neal.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting asdf:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes. And by yes I mean I agree. Bosh is not as well-rounded as KG nor will he ever be. Bosh's career high in assists is like 8, and Garnett averages around 5 a game for almost his entire career. I think Bosh is an amazing player, don't get me wrong, but Garnett is just an absolute freak of nature. I don't think anyone will come along and be comparable to the versatility and heart that Garnett brings to the game. Let's not forget that Garnett paved the way for guys like Bosh. I think a better comparison for Bosh would be Jermaine O'Neal to be honest. Bosh and O'Neal both resemble the 20-10 guy that has that soft outside touch, although Bosh's post up game isn't as refined as O'Neal.</div> Too early to decide either Bosh will be better than KG......but I still think Jermaine's stronger than Bosh at the defensive end of the floor.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TmacGarnett:</div><div class="quote_post">They will put up similar numbers but Bosh will never be as versatile on the court and as dominant as KG. KG even at a young age could sometimes take over a game and Bosh has still to show the kind of passion KG is known for. KG does stuff that don't show up on the stat sheet.</div> Such as DEFENSE....
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hustler:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe....this question is too early to be asked.</div> Agreed.
This is a lot like the Kobe/D-Wade question. Even if Bosh only played for one year at Georgia Tech, he still had one year of college basketball experience. I think Bosh can become better than KG but first he has to improve his all around game and hope that management stays in the same direction it's going because KG's front office is one of the worst in the entire league. If Colangelo keeps surrounding Bosh with good, talented players, then he can become the type of player that KG is. Bosh has range similar to that of KG including a three pointer here and there. I think he is developing a passion for the game very similar to Garnett and from what I've seen of KG he is probably one of the most pasisonate players in the league. He can also become the type of leader that KG is because he knows that he is the face of the franchise and he is the heart and soul of the Raptors organization. One thing he needs to improve if he wants to be considered in KG's league is his rebounding. With the talent he has he should be averaging at least 11 a game. If we compare them at this point in their respective careers at this age the stats are somewhat alike: Bosh: PPG- 22.5 RPG- 9.2 APG- 2.6 BPG- 1.13 Garnett: PPG- 22.9 RPG- 11.8 APG- 5.0 BPG- 1.56 The scoring and blocks are alike but Garnett has a clear advantage in the rebounding and blocks department. I think Bosh can develop into a player as good or even better than KG, but it all depends on how hard he works at it because the talent is there.
I can't see Bosh ever being the defender, passer, or rebounder KG is. I can see him being a better scorer, he has more of a scorer's mentalitty and is better at getting to the line, but being better at one thing, and not that much better either is not going to make him better than KG or close to being as good. So no, I'm even inclined to say definately not. Bosh will have to also win an MVP, or at least have a few years where he's in the Top 5 in MVP voting. Even if he wins a championship, unless he has an MVP type season and is the one carrying the team, he's not going to even get close to matching KG. Bosh has to first surpass the careers of guys like Webber before we start talking about a KG.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NBA MAN:</div><div class="quote_post">Bosh getting a ring in Toronto???? Garnett is much better than Bosh. Don't even ask P.S.- Bosh isn't even top 10 power forwards all-time</div> the question is will he be, not is he
