The 2nd overall pick this year has disappointed many with his <font color="Red">edit</font> attitude and unwillingness to work with one of the greatest coaches ever - Larry Brown. Sure he's still young and will learn, but I don't think he'll ever be as good as many people think he will be. Some even compared him to a shorter version of Yao that can run the floor. I say no way in hell. What do you guys think?
dunno.....hes supposed to have potential.....remember hes supposed to be a SENIOR IN HIGH SCHOOL right now. some1 like lebron has graduated from high school.....darko hasnt even graduated yet....... give him some time b4 we call him a bust. im not saying hes going to be so great but at the moment we cannot judge him yet.
Where do you get that Darko has a "<font color="Red">edit </font> attitude" and "unwillingess to work"??? There have been many articles talking about Brown and Darko working during practice on his fundamentals. The guy is a project. This has been said from DAY 1. Dumars came out when we drafted him and said he's going to be a great player in a few years. The ONLY people who are dissappointed are the short-sighted ones. I think Darko's development will be shown after this offseason. Darko will have time to play in the summer leagues and get lots of experience. It'll be his first chance to log lots of minutes playing NBA-level basketball. I'm very excited to see how much Darko's game improves next season. Think of this: the Pistons are playing astonishing defense right now with Wallaces X2 swatting everything away. Can you imagine adding another 7 footer to the mix?
pistons not only have ben and sheed wallace but also edlen campbell, mehmet Okur. corlious williamson and darvin ham can play big men spots too......... darko has time.....
iamme, there's a reason why Larry Brown played Darko for only 4.7 minutes per game this season. Some of it had to do with the fact that they already have Big Ben and Okur up front, but most of it isn't. It was in the news earlier in the season about his attitude problem. When Dumars said he's a project and will be great in a few years... how long does he mean "in a few years"? And is Darko such a rough diamond that we only get to see him play for less than 5 minutes per game this season? Now I'm not saying he's gonna be a complete bust, but I don't think he'll ever be anywhere near even Yao of this year (i.e: he could almost match up with Shaq in a game). Also, I don't know if Darko will be able to develop as freely as he want with a super-crowded frontcourt that the Pistons have... It might actually hurt him.
Joe Dumars drafted him, he must have potential. He was new to the U.S. and he wasnt even 18 yet. He will be good I think, Give him 2-3 more years and he will be deserving of that #2 pick.
the pistons were a playoff team with a lottery pick. they could take the chance to draft darko. but im sure they didnt think he would be this big a project. but ive heard that he works with larry brown every day. you can tell that he is way off on the speed and timing of the nba. i think hell pull through, especially if sheed and ben are there to teach him
I think he didn't play that many minutes because of he didn't have enough endurance yet but he has work on that alot.Another reason, he was new to the system of the NBA. I think Dumar's decision to pick him was a good one because you don't find alot of 7 footers with his potentials and skills. Franchises are usualy built around big men. He will get more minutes next season. The Pistons weren't a lottery team like the Nuggets and Cavs. They were Championship contenders, so they want to take any chances of hurting their chances of becoming champions. Lebron and Carmelo had more freedom to play because their teams had nothing to lose. He is still very young and give him a couple of years and he will become a great player.
the Pistons' might be a championship-calibre team but why not take 'Melo to put them over the hump? imagine a starting lineup of Ben, Sheed, 'Melo, Rip and Billups! They would be able to contend against any team and not just for the Eastern Conference Championship i don't think Detroit realized that he would be such a huge project....i don't care who you are, if the coach will only play you 5 minutes a game during garbage time, it shows that he's nowhere close to being ready to play in the NBA. If you're good enough, even if you're a rookie, you'll get playing time even on a championship-calibre team coaches know that the only way rookies get better is through in-game experience and if Brown doesn't even trust him to play more than 5 minutes, there's a problem
I hope he ends up in a better boat than Nene, I know Nene is in a good place and position and that Darko would be lucky to be in that kind of situation. But I feel he has bigger fish to fry and will reach or go beyond a Yao state. I want both he and Yao to become the Stars they ought to be. Sure there's the language barrier for Darko, but that'll change. It's Larry Brown that's gotta go. He's a good coach yeah, but look what he's doing, trying to make Big Ben go offensive. That's just plain stupid. Dumars. No need to say anything, this man is a genius, he always knows what he's doing. He's not a sportsman, citizen and businessman for nothing.
He was drafted to help the Pistons out for the future. People are writing him off already, but they don't realize how young he is. He played overseas his entire life, he's dealing with the language barrier, and the talent level overseas isn't nearly as competitive as it is in the states. Now he's in the NBA. Thats quite a change for a guy who is only 18. Larry Brown is doing the right thing, he's slowly bringing him along. What else is he supposed to do? Start their rookie project? Whats the point of that? The Pistons didn't even need him this season, so if they slowly bring him along he can comfortably adjust to the routines of the NBA. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> why not take 'Melo to put them over the hump?</div> Thats a good question, but Darko has the potential to become a franchise player. (Of couse Melo IS a franchise player, but big men are hard to come by these days)
I have been the biggest Darko Pessimist in JBB. But I'm tired of arguing if he'll be a good player or if Carmelo should have been drafted. Just wait 2 years and if he doesn't show his potential at all in those two years I declare him a bust. He is still young and I think he may bring good things in the future. He has a similar start to his career that Jermaine O'neal did (being drafted by the Blazers, not playing because there was so much talent around him) so that is something to consider. In JO's first year he averaged 4.1 points 2 boards in 10 minutes a game. The jury is still out on this youngster and personally I hate him (the blonde hair, bad attitude, SEEMS really unntelligent). But his career is still young so you have to give him time.
I don't know where people are getting that he has a bad attuide, for a guy who is still only 18 he is very mature and rarely moans about minutes. He had a problem mid-season and was a little upset but he decided to have a private meeting with Brown and Dumars which cleared everything up. He knows he has to be brought along slowly for him to become a better player. The question is getting really old to be honest, he is an 18 year old project, people need to realise this and take notice. You can bring up "Pistons should of taken Melo" e.t.c and how great the Pistons would be with Melo, Billups, Hamilton and the Wallace brothers but infact there would be maybe a 5% chance that Sheed would be in Detroit had Melo been drafted, infact I will go as far as to say that Sheed would of not even been talked about by Larry Brown and Joe Dumars. Pistons traded Cliff Robinson for Bob Sura for two reasons 1-Cap room 2-To make room for Darko as the team as a whole had way too many forwards to deal with.
He hasn't even got a chance to play. They have Sheed n Big Ben, they don't need to be playing an 18 yr old. They didn't need Melo, Dumars thought Prince was blossoming at the 3. My bet's are he will be a good player in two more years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">The jury is still out on this youngster and personally I hate him (the blonde hair, bad attitude, SEEMS really unntelligent). But his career is still young so you have to give him time.</div> i guess you can hate people with blonde hair, but still don't get how "bad attitude" and "unntelligent" (spelled wrong, ironically ) can be derived from watching his 4 minutes per game.
^Its actually from the situation where he went to the media regarding his lack of playing time. I am just really against players (especially rookies ie. Darko, Carmelo) who air their TEAM differences to the media. They say first impressions last a life time, he has two years to prove differently to me. BTW Do you think I don't know how to spell unintelligent? Tanks for the spelling lesson
The fact is a great swing man comes relatively often, a great big man is a rare comodity. If I were the Pistons, I also would've drafted Darko..
Comparing Darko with JO is a valid argument, but I don't think JO had Darko's bad attitude, plus he looks and acts like a punk. Going to the media and whines about his minutes is completely unacceptable to me. You're 18, you're young and inexperienced, yet you argue about sharing minutes with a great established player (Ben Wallace) to a coach like Larry Brown, who knows what he's doing. I agree with CourtVision, two years from now, if he isn't showing us anything, he's officially a bust. Besides, JO wasn't a #2 overall pick like Darko, so even if JO never produced, he can't be a bust. Melo and Sheed play a different type of game, so I don't see why Sheed wouldn't have been considered in a trade by Detroit if they had Melo. A lineup of Chauncey, Rip, Melo, Sheed and Big Ben woulda been SICK. I honestly believe that if they had gotten Melo, Detroit would've been the first serious threat from the East in a long time. I think the common thing that we all can agree is that Darko is a bigger project than what everybody thought. He'll take a longer time to develop than they think and he might or might not be good in the future, but he's not going nowhere in the next 2-3 years unless he goes to a shitty team with no real big man.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Comparing Darko with JO is a valid argument, but I don't think JO had Darko's bad attitude, plus he looks and acts like a punk. Going to the media and whines about his minutes is completely unacceptable to me. You're 18, you're young and inexperienced, yet you argue about sharing minutes with a great established player (Ben Wallace) to a coach like Larry Brown, who knows what he's doing. I agree with CourtVision, two years from now, if he isn't showing us anything, he's officially a bust. Besides, JO wasn't a #2 overall pick like Darko, so even if JO never produced, he can't be a bust. </div> Once again, who has been telling you Darko has a bad attuide? he acts like a punk? how would you know? all he does is sit on the bench and cheers on his team through every game. Is that a sign of a punk to you? whining to the media? He was frustrated and mentioned it once and wanted to know why he wasn't playing which is why they had a meeting which that is now all straighten out. If you think Jermaine didn't moan or was frustrated about playing time in Portland you are mistaken. Two years from now he's a bust If he isn't showing us anything? that is a complete joke..It really is. The guy will be 20 years old in two years time, he shouldn't be labelled a bust till at least he goes past the age 25..even though that is still very early in his career. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Melo and Sheed play a different type of game, so I don't see why Sheed wouldn't have been considered in a trade by Detroit if they had Melo. A lineup of Chauncey, Rip, Melo, Sheed and Big Ben woulda been SICK. I honestly believe that if they had gotten Melo, Detroit would've been the first serious threat from the East in a long time. </div> You don't understand, the trade wouldn't of been possible for a few reasons. I have already explained one reason why he wouldn't be around. Bob Sura who was involved in the trade was traded to Detroit in the off-season. That wouldn't of happened had Melo been drafted. That ploy was to create room and move one of the many forwards the Pistons were stacked with. Dumars also wouldn't of needed another trade. The only reason he tried to make one this year was purely down to the team losing to the top teams and struggling to score consistantly. The offensive pressure was too much on Billups and Hamilton, so therefore another scorer was needed. With Melo around that wouldn't of been a problem. So no Sheed would not be a Detroit Piston had Melo been drafted.
People are forgetting to mention Tayshaun Prince's name in these discussions, too. At the time of the draft, Prince had come off a superb playoff series (as a rookie, mind you) and Joe D rates the kid through the roof. Carmelo was a readymade NBA player, but when you are a contender with a high pick, you can take a chance - just remember Darko had as much hype surrounding him as Melo, and at 7 feet tall. Melo is a go to scorer who wants and needs the ball in his hands - Detroit play a style of basketball which involves sharing the ball around and playing hard nosed defense. You often see a bunch of guys scoring 10-15 a game rather than a go to scorer, and Prince fits this style of play perfectly. And what's this about Melo automatically making them contenders? I don't think they'd be a better team with melo as it stands, and they are legitimate contenders anyway. And this is with a promising, 7 foot project on the sidelines.
