OT Will this be Dame in 10 years?

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Apparently Corey Benjamin talked some shit about MJ after he retired (for the second time.) MJ showed up to the Bulls practice and then this happened... I wonder if this will be Dame working on some rookie hot shot in ten years?

     
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    magnifier661 B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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    As much as I hated this guy, mainly because he was so much better than my favorite player, he was better than anything or anyone currently, the past and the future. He was something purely amazing
     
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    Rastapopoulos Well-Known Member

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    I hope Lillard would have more class than Jordan.
     
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    to compare Lillard with The Mike to any degree is silly. More to the point, Do I think we will still see people blowing by him into the paint? Yeah, probably, though I would not be saddened to see him in a different uniform.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I hope by that time, Lillard at least has a title with the Blazers.
     
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    We should have asked for this guy instead of Henderson. He could still drop 20 on a whim
     
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    I think Olajuwon would as well, probably Karl Malone too
     
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  8. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    That is the most interesting way that I have seen someone spell Hakeem's name. And no, he looked god awful when he was in Toronto. Completely washed up.


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    fixed but I might add...MJ didn't look too fresh with the Wizards either at the end
     
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    Denny Crane It's not even loaded! Staff Member Administrator

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    It used to be Akeem.
     
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    Romanizations have a lot of versions when they try fit it into english..could have been Hakim..
     
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    bodyman5000 and 1 Lions, Tigers, Me, Bears

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    Unfortunately as a Blazer fan this is what I think of when I think about the definition of the perfect player.
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I enjoyed watching Jordan play more, but I think LeBron James is probably the better player. Jordan had a grace and elegance to his game, whereas James has the physical inevitability of a runaway train. People compare him to (Karl) Malone and Jordan and Magic and Pippen, but I think he's morphing into a Shaq who can shoot. Shaq was one of the most unstoppable players I've ever seen, but he wasn't all that much fun to watch play, in my opinion.

    That said, I think Steph Curry may be the most watchable player in NBA history.
     
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    Tell me if Interpreted this right, you would not be saddened if Dame was moved to some other team right now. Or is this after his career?
     
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    I know you've been around for awhile as a poster. Not only here but in other forums but if you believe that about Steph and Lebron. You have to have short term memory
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    No, I'm just not one who's blinded by nostalgia. Older sports fans tend to be myopic about current players...older players were always much better, the sport was always better in the past, etc.

    In the first half of the '90s, older sports fans would have said, "If you think Jordan is the best you've ever seen, you clearly never watched Magic Johnson or Larry Bird play!" In the '80s, if you thought Magic was the best, then you clearly didn't have sufficient memory of Abdul-Jabbar, Robertson, Chamberlain or Russell.

    So it goes. I've seen everyone since the early 1980s and James is far from my favorite player (I prefer Magic Johnson and the aforementioned Jordan, among others, and Pippen is my favorite player as some here may recall), but I don't think there's anyone who's been able to impact the game and change styles as much as James.
     
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    And you watched in the 80's eh?
     
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    Yup. The Showtime Lakers were my first basketball love.
     
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    They were fun. I made this comment before, LeBron isn't even the best at what he is, IMO. I give that to Magic Johnson. I agree with much of your argument above about nostalgia and stuff. But the top two players since I have been watching are 1. Michael Jordan 2. Magic Johnson. And it's in the fundamentals. I don't believe for a moment Lebron works on his game in the offseason the way Michael and the players of the 80's did. His game doesn't show evidence of it, IMO. I think he relies on his huge advantage of being physically better than everyone else...I don't even think is a better basketball player than Kobe.

    With that said, not knocking your opinion. Just disagree.
     
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    Disagreement is fine. I don't really believe in "undisputed best players." I think there are (good) arguments to be made for players like James, Jordan, Chamberlain, Robertson, etc. I just think it's James.

    As for whether he works on his game in the offseason, it's always been reported that he works like a demon in the offseason and there's plenty of evidence of it. He improved his shooting markedly from his rookie season to his Miami years. His post game was non-existent when he entered the league and now it's extremely polished. He entered the league as a gifted passer and a decent if inconsistent defender but has become one of the all-time greats at distorting a defense and making the perfect pass, and his defense has become consistently top-tier.

    Magic Johnson has always been an interesting comparison to James, but Magic was never an elite defender, nor was he an elite scorer, and James is both in addition to being a great play-maker for others.
     
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