With the 7th pick in the 2024 NBA Draft, The Portland Trailblazers select. . .

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  1. kjironman1

    kjironman1 Well-Known Member

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    Yep!
    Just heard again Blazers are going after Ron Holland.
    Very young but they feel he is the steal of the draft.
     
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    Hearing from where? I hear Holland is dropping like a rock.
     
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    RHJ back in Portland
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Well, let’s see…..

    Collins was the last big that we drafted in the lottery. He was a reach by Neil. He was a guy who didn’t play many minutes in college. He was lauded for his defense. He was seen as a role player. Their color has nothing to do with it. They are similar players. Main difference is that Clingan is bigger.
     
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    Nah he’s still top 5 in a couple mocks and top 10 in pretty much all the rest. This is up from 10-20 range a month ago.
    My two (albeit limited) sources say the Blazers are very interested. Totally makes sense.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    They are completely different stylistically. Zach was a guy that you expected to be able to play switching defense while providing weak side shot blocking. Clingan is a traditional drop big. Offensively, Zach was supposed to be able to stretch the floor, whereas Clingan is just a PnR/dunker spot guy. Not to mention Clingan is WAY bigger, stronger, and physically ready to play.
     
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    And he didn’t seem to imp
    his conditioning as Edey out performed him at the combine in pretty much everything.
     
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    1. Every Blazer rumor, the Blazers put out there to throw a fake...e.g. Clingan, to con a team into taking him, so that 1 more player is available at #7.

    2. Therefore, every rumor in this thread is the opposite of the truth.

    3. So I had my son write a little program to insert a negative sign in front of every sentence. Now, you too can read this thread without reinterpreting everything.

    4. 250 bucks but hurry, supplies are limited.
     
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    What type of sources are you hearing this from?

    This would be absolutely fantastic
     
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    And MUCH slower
     
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    I like the IQ and passing from Clingan. If he was more mobile, I wouldn't mind him, but he's slow. Much slower than Kessler if you watch their college film back-to-back.
     
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    Pretty well known who I have worked for for many years. The contacts I have are far from reliable but obviously the guy used to play for the Blazers so there is that. Once you play for the team and decide to live and raise your family here you are a Blazer for life. Now I will tell you this. His tales on Blazers and fandom would make your head spin. It's why I'm all about getting new ownership as it stand right now.
    Let me say this again "My contacts are far from reliable". Most of what I'm saying is what I hear someone else who heard something say. Then sprinkle in my own homerism and I'm on the Ron Holland pick for this team. Perfect fit and has lots of upside that might blossom. In this draft It's pretty much the best you could hope for at #7.
     
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    If we come out of this draft with Holland and Da Silva, I would be mostly satisfied. Roster building he damned but getting two guys to throw at a wall to see who sticks as the SF of the future is not a bad way to do business.
     
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    Collins stock was high for the same reasons Cody Williams and and Sheppard Reed's stock is high.

    Collins shot 67% from 2, 48% from 3 and his per 40 statline was 23/14/4. That's in addition to being projected as a good defender. He also displayed a firey competitive flair. I loved the pick at the time.

    Zach also wouldn't be regarded as a "bust" if he could stay healthy. I'd love to have him back as our PF.
     
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    No, Brook Lopez without OFFENSE. Brook average 20+ppg, and didn't even start putting up 3s until 9 years into his career. I don't know where this comparison came from...
     
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    Ron Holland's TS% was 55% in the g-league. Which would have ranked 2nd to last as a team, only above the Blazers abysmal. 54.5%

    The idea of adding someone whose shooting is a big question mark, and pairing him with Scoot, when the Blazers are already have the the worst 3pt shooting team in the league...

    TS% tracks very closely with team success. So it would be an uphill battle, building a roster around guys who are not good shooters or efficient scorers. You can get away with it if it's just one guy, but the Blazers seem to be collecting them...
     
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    The Kid isn’t even 19 yet.
    No there is absolutely no guarantee he will ever even sniff the court.
    The point is more that he has the tools to play the game very well in time.
    In this draft it seems you either go for a role player or you take a chance on an unproven prospect.
     
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    Maybe at #14. It's difficult to see them taking him at #7, even though I think he has a high ceiling, but a low floor.
     
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    Definitely still a low floor. He’s very young
     
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    In theory, I have to agree with you since I have also questioned whether or not Scoot and Holland are a good fit. But if they think Holland offers a "Hart" type of addition to the team where he will fill up the box score, then it is doable if they have 3 shooters on the floor with them. It would take a lot of "ifs" for it to work, but a Scoot, Sharpe, Holland, Ayton, Salaun lineup in a couple of years would be interesting. ....if Salaun or someone like him became a really good shooter.

    Having said that it would be a lot easier to draft a shooter at SF and get an energy-type guy who does the dirty work at the 4 (ie Camara)

    I'm not sure why we even bother to bring team stats from last year into any conversation. Individual stats sure, but when you have Camara and Reath leading the way in the number of games played, how relevant can those stats be?
     
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