With Yao Maxed, Lakers will Target LeBron

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  1. Shapecity

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">To inspire media and fans to speculate and chatter and raise a general ruckus about where he should go and why? (Several sources say Lakers rising exec Jim Buss -- son of owner Dr. Jerry Buss -- thought he could lure Yao to L.A. but is now targeting LeBron James.) </div>

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    LeBron will probably sign an extension before he goes into Free Agency. LA better be careful, or this plan might blow up in their face.
     
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    Lebron?? Wow. I hope the Lakers don't really expect him to sign with LA. Of course I'd love him to but it doesn't seem possible...
     
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    Stay away from Lebron. He is an overrated player and he wouldn't create a good chemistry with kobe overtime. Plus, we don't need Lebron, that's why we have Kobe. We need a big guy except for Yao Ming cuz he flat out sucks. I say go for Amare or someone with equal worth and youth.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Stay away from Lebron. He is an overrated player and he wouldn't create a good chemistry with kobe overtime. Plus, we don't need Lebron, that's why we have Kobe. We need a big guy except for Yao Ming cuz he flat out sucks. I say go for Amare or someone with equal worth and youth.</div>

    You might be the only person who wouldn't want LeBron James in the P&G. I agree he is overrated, but let's be honest, he has ridiculous expectations on him from all the media hype. There's never been a player coming out of high school leading their team into the post-season in their first couple of years. LeBron James is quickly becoming the best all-around player in the game. He averaged 27-7-7 last year, and he's only played two years. Those are insane numbers let alone doing it at 19.

    I don't think it's realistic he will come to the Lakers. Sure he'll take a look and allow them to wine and dine him. Afterall it just increases his value and improves his negotiating position with the Cavs. However, if he does come to the Lakers, I'll be estatic.

    I'd love to get Amare also, but I honestly don't see either him or LeBron leaving.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> LeBron James is quickly becoming the best all-around player in the game. He averaged 27-7-7 last year, and he's only played two years. Those are insane numbers let alone doing it at 19.</div>


    Stats don't matter if you can't win. Yeah he averages 27-7-7, but he is the only one on the team who is good. Now with Larry Hughes coming to the Cavs, expect Lebron's numbers to go down.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Stats don't matter if you can't win. Yeah he averages 27-7-7, but he is the only one on the team who is good. Now with Larry Hughes coming to the Cavs, expect Lebron's numbers to go down.</div>
    Also expect him to win now, with the right role players around him.

    Stats don't mean much, but you cannot deny he's a great all-around player on both ends of the court. He's only going to get better, and teamming him with Kobe would take pressure off both players.
     
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    Yeah he's good I won't deny him that, but I just thought of another problem with Lebron. It is that I think he has a lack of confidence for his team. Remember during the summer he submitted a video feed of himself bascially begging Michael Redd to join the Cavs. That shows that he doesn't believe in the current roster he works with. If I was on the Cavs, I would hate to be his teammate.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah he's good I won't deny him that, but I just thought of another problem with Lebron. It is that I think he has a lack of confidence for his team. Remember during the summer he submitted a video feed of himself bascially begging Michael Redd to join the Cavs. That shows that he doesn't believe in the current roster he works with. If I was on the Cavs, I would hate to be his teammate.</div>

    His teammates were slacking and not helping him at all. The video was to try to lure Redd, because the Cavs had a lot of cap room and were looking for a top-tier free agent. It seems to me you are showing blind hate.
     
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    Blind hate? tsk tsk tsk hate is a strong word. Lebron just flat out doesn't impress me like he does the rest of the world. From 2004-present, he was said to be the "next Jordon and blah blah blah" and he gets all these promotions with Sprite, Nike and all that stuff. Well ok, if he is getting 80+ million dollars to do all this stuff, he must be pretty damn good. What happens? He misses the playoffs twice. He is a underperformer and the rest of the world will forget about him in 5 years IF he doesn't win a ring by then. No hate, just disappointment.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Blind hate? tsk tsk tsk hate is a strong word. Lebron just flat out doesn't impress me like he does the rest of the world. From 2004-present, he was said to be the "next Jordon and blah blah blah" and he gets all these promotions with Sprite, Nike and all that stuff. Well ok, if he is getting 80+ million dollars to do all this stuff, he must be pretty damn good. What happens? He misses the playoffs twice. He is a underperformer and the rest of the world will forget about him in 5 years IF he doesn't win a ring by then. No hate, just disappointment.</div>

    If Lebron doesn't impress you, who does? Take away all the endorsements and all the hype, and what are you left with? A 19-year-old manchild with averages of 27-7-7. It would be a suprise if a second year player - let alone a second year player straight from highschool could lead his team to the playoffs. "He is an underperformer" ? Why do you think that? Did you expect him to average a triple double? or 40 points? I don't see your reasoning when you say he's a disappointment... [​IMG]
     
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    LeBron OVERRATED???????? Are you kidding me????????? LeBron wasn't expected to be nearly as good as he was coming out of high school. Also, I believe he was the only player in the NBA this season to average 20-7-7. He may someday be better than His Airness himself.
     
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    I expected him to help his team succeed
     
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    /You gotta consider a lot of things. He's only played 2 years, and he already took the Cavs from laughing stocks/number 1 pickers to playoff contenders (don't know how far into the playoffs but still...). Yeah, he's the closest we have to the next Jordan because he's the most talented player for his age. HE IS pretty damn good. He's way better than Kobe was when Kobe was 19. He also works very hard in the offseason from what I've read.

    If I had a choice, I'd choose Lebron over Kobe just because Lebron's a way better team player. And if Kobe was really that much better than Lebron, then he should've made the playoffs last season. Kobe even had a better team to work with than Lebron but the Cavs did way better. Also, for a shooting guard to shoot 47% from the field...thats pretty good. Better than Kobe's 43%. Not mention how much pressure has been put on Lebron but he still performs well. He's not overrated at all to me...
     
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    To be fair to LeBron, he had ridiculous expectations placed on him. The hype has cooled off a little since he hasn't been in the playoffs yet, and both Wade and Melo have. However, LeBron is still very young. No high schooler drafted has led their team to the playoffs, ever.

    KG's team had 26 wins his rookie season
    KG's team had 40 wins his 2nd year, but they added Marbury

    Kobe's team had 56 wins his rookie season, but he wasn't a major part of it
    Kobe's team had 61 wins his 2nd year, but they added Shaq

    Amare's team had 44 wins his rookie season, but he wasn't a major part of it
    Amare's team had 29 wins his 2nd year

    These three players all broke through in the 3rd season, this will be LeBron's 3rd season and the Cavs have surrounded him with some nice pieces, including Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall. If he can't lead this squad into the playoffs, then it's fair to start having some doubts about him. But still, he's only 20 years old.
     
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    - Kevin Garnett improved the TWolves by 5 games his rookie year.
    - Kobe Bryant improved the Lakers by 3 games his rookie year.
    - Amare Stoudemire improved the Suns by 8 games his rookie year.
    - LeBron James improved the Cavs by 18 games his rookie year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">To be fair to LeBron, he had ridiculous expectations placed on him. The hype has cooled off a little since he hasn't been in the playoffs yet, and both Wade and Melo have. However, LeBron is still very young. No high schooler drafted has led their team to the playoffs, ever.

    KG's team had 26 wins his rookie season
    KG's team had 40 wins his 2nd year, but they added Marbury

    Kobe's team had 56 wins his rookie season, but he wasn't a major part of it
    Kobe's team had 61 wins his 2nd year, but they added Shaq

    Amare's team had 44 wins his rookie season, but he wasn't a major part of it
    Amare's team had 29 wins his 2nd year

    These three players all broke through in the 3rd season, this will be LeBron's 3rd season and the Cavs have surrounded him with some nice pieces, including Larry Hughes and Donyell Marshall. If he can't lead this squad into the playoffs, then it's fair to start having some doubts about him. But still, he's only 20 years old.</div>

    I can buy that. If Lebron does well for his team this year than I might reconsider. If they had Paul Silas still, than I would be almost certain they would be a better team. I wonder how their coaching situation will be this year.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YourNewChef:</div><div class="quote_post">Blind hate? tsk tsk tsk hate is a strong word. Lebron just flat out doesn't impress me like he does the rest of the world. From 2004-present, he was said to be the "next Jordon and blah blah blah" and he gets all these promotions with Sprite, Nike and all that stuff. Well ok, if he is getting 80+ million dollars to do all this stuff, he must be pretty damn good. What happens? He misses the playoffs twice. He is a underperformer and the rest of the world will forget about him in 5 years IF he doesn't win a ring by then. No hate, just disappointment.</div>

    First, when did he say he was the next Jordan? Second, is it LeBron's fault he never had the right teammates? It's not his fault his teammates choked down the stretch or lied/abandoned the team (McInnis, Boozer). If 27-7-7 is underperforming to you, then I don't know what to say.
     
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    I never said HE claimed to be the next Jordan. That was done by spectators and fans. No it's not his fault he isn't surrounded by talent, but Jordan didn't have that much talent around him when he won his first ring. He finally aquired maturity and that's what Lebron needs. Yeah yeah he's 27-7-7 and those are good numbers, I'll admit but it's his lack of success that I am concerned about not his numbers. I am questioning his leadership skills more than I am questioning his true talent.
     
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    Lakers getting Lebron...I dont think that will happen, i think unless the Cavs have a horrible real bad season which none of us expect then he staying with the Cavs.
     

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