The refs that worked the panther-dallas game need to be fired. They throw out steve smith because some dallas player body slams Smith out of bounds and Steve Smith goes to the ref and pleads his case. And on the game tying field goal, Julius Peppers and Mike Minter leap and tip the ball a little and accdental land on the ground and knock the kicker down. They were 8 feet off the ground and tipped the ball. It was a block, so why call a flag???
Yea some calls are bad but you did lose and it will teach for you for comeing around the bears and telling us well you got lucky? let me guess the cowgirls got lucky to right like if steve would jus caught that one pass like man. *sigh*
He only caught one pass because he got thrown out! This year, Ronde Barber punched a ref and didnt get thrown out, and Steve Smith pleads his case after getting bodyslamed out of bounds and he gets thrown out. Smith didnt do anything wrong
oh I know i just want people to respect the bears. panthers did lose but every one has them in the big dame so we will see.
Any time you touch a ref intentionally you are supposed to be thrown out. My impression on the Ronde Barber thing is that it was unintentional. Smith should know better than to grab a ref - even if he was trying to plead his case.
Does anybody know about the roughing the kicker rule? If you block the kick, can u still be called for it?
Good teams go out and win ballgames. They don't sit around and blame the refs. If the Panthers were as good as advertised, then what the refs do is a moot point.
ehh I never saw what happened but I'll add that the refs have made some terrible calls this year for every team.. More so this year than any others in recent memory.
Those two calls are the only calls i have ever thought were completly wrong. The ball was blocked! Ken Lucas got the tip of his finger on it and it missed.
throwing Smith out was good call, you cant touch official,regardless. the FG, was total BS and DID cost Car the game.
Ronde Barber punched a offical and he didnt get thrown out! The panthers were up by three, blocked the kick, and tht BS call brought the ball down to like the 9 yard line. With like a minute left. Its hard to stop a team after you thought u made a hell of a play and a BS call like that happens. Julius Peppers was probly 4 feet off the ground, and fell down right in front of the kicker. The kicker could have just pretended to fall down to get the call in the cowboys favor
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Ronde Barber punched a offical and he didnt get thrown out!</div> I didn't see the play, but my impression was that Barber was not trying to punch the ref, but rather was going after another player. That doesn't mean he shouldn't have been thrown out, but it is a distinction. Even if Barber had intentionally hit the ref, that doesn't mean that Smith shouldn't have been thrown out. The rules are the rules - intentionally grabbing a ref is grounds for being ejected from the game. Bad calls are going to happen just like fluke turnovers and weird injuries. They are a part of the game, and every team needs to learn how to overcome them if they want to be successful. Its funny, but you don't hear successful teams complaining about the refs. This either means that refs are the sole reason teams are successful, or that people look to other things when their team loses.
It's unknown what Smith said to the ref, but unless it was something that can't be said on public tv then he didn't deserve to be thrown out. And the FG was clearly tipped. You can see the ball change direction slightly once it passes the hands.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (panthersare#1)</div><div class='quotemain'>Those two calls are the only calls i have ever thought were completly wrong. The ball was blocked! Ken Lucas got the tip of his finger on it and it missed.</div> 1. Whether or not I agree with the refs or those who criticize them is irrelevant. I try not to complain about the refs either way. I've had the job, and I don't want the job. 2. Smith probably should have been ejected. I could see where they could let him get away with what he did easily, but he did break a rule. Whatever errors in judgement that the refs made in reference to Barber's situation is irrelevant. 3. If Lucas blocked the kick, he has the right to run into the kicker without penalty. I have only spent a small amount of time looking, but I cannot find anything that allows Peppers to run into the kicker if Lucas tipped the ball. It may be perfectly legal, but I haven't found anything to support it yet.
A member of the receiving team may not run into or rough a kicker who kicks from behind unless contact is: 1. Incident to and after he had touched ball in flight. 2. Caused by kicker's own motions. 3. Occurs during a quick kick, or a kick made after a run behind the line, or after kicker recovers a loose ball on the ground. 4. Defender is blocked into the kicker.
Yeah, not to be all team biased but if you guys watch a raiders game watch all the shit that happens to us, no calls ever go out way *cough* tuck rule *cough* if it werent for the tuck there would be no dynasty gg thx
He should've been thrown out. Just trying to do something to someone at all should get him thrown out. The contact with the ref may have been unintentional, but he was trying to go after someone else.
back to steve smith only having one catch, wasnt he thrown out in like the third quarter, so doesnt that mean he probably shoulda had more catches. actually on NFL Live a week ago they went back to the Dallas Panthers game and showed how Smith was completely shut down by Dallas, if i were the Seahawks i'd be watching some of that film because Smith was dominated by their secondary and he was fusterated. i watched the film he was pissed
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hawk)</div><div class='quotemain'>He should've been thrown out. Just trying to do something to someone at all should get him thrown out. The contact with the ref may have been unintentional, but he was trying to go after someone else.</div> Are u serious. He wasnt going after anyone. He put his hand on the back of the ref, to try to talk to him. Steve Smith was the one thrown out of bounds, it wasnt his fault the ref didnt throw the flag. He was just trying to get the refs attention.
well rules are rules and steve smith just shouldnt have touched the guy and thats why he was thrown out.... sry i think i'm gonna end the thread right here but who cares right now the Panthers are in the NFC Championship and Dallas isnt even in the playoffs, the only reason somoene should go back on that game is because before he was thrown out Steve Smith was shut out by Dallas secondary
