Given their current contract offers? Personally, I would rather have Boozer. I loved watching him play for (NC?). I like Foyle. I think he will average a double double this year, but I like Boozers size and offensive game.
I like the fact he weighs as much as most centers in the league. Probably helps in getting position for the rebound since he's a decent athlete. He's the real "Alaskan Assassin" (nickname was wasted on Trajan Langdon) in the NBA. Still would he come play with Jrich after Jrich bounced the ball of his head and shot a 3 pointer during the 2002 allstar rookie game? That was funny!
Oh man. I forgot about that! No wonder we did not go after him! haha. If we did sign him, I wonder if Jrich and Boozer would be on opposite practice squads? haha. He could bounce the ball off his head everyday in practice. hahahaha
It would have been great, but even without Foyle, Boozer is just out of our reach (well compared to Utah's contract). The Cavs were offering the full 6 year midlevel (6 years and 42.5 million) and the Jazz offered 6 years and 68 million. We could have only offered just about 6 years and 50 million. (We gave Foyle 5 years and 41 million.) Boozer is a great rebounder, but he's not quite a great shotblocker. He's a bit better than Murphy, but I think if Murphy stays healthy their numbers will come out the same, and Murphy is actually a bit quicker with more range.
There is no doubt that Boozer is an up and coming star. He is one of the few players that came into this league good and have improved so much in so little time. He was trapped in coach k's offense at Duke and he has found a home here in the NBA where could be be "unleashed". The guy has a very very bright future but Foyle is a better bargain. Too bad boozer had to come to the West.
Don't forget, Boozers defence is very weak. He is certainly one of the up and coming stars in the league, but Foyle's defence is much stronger than Boozers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bobcats:</div><div class="quote_post">Don't forget, Boozers defence is very weak. He is certainly one of the up and coming stars in the league, but Foyle's defence is much stronger than Boozers.</div>Yea it really depends on the way you look at it. Boozer will get more air time and hype because he will put points on the board but Foyle will do most of the dirty work that doens't show up on ESPN. Too bad you couldn't combine these guys some how.
That one guy that the Warriors were looking for with Boozer's offense and Foyle's defense would be the guy by the name of "Adonal Dampier". As Jim Barnett and Tim Roye always jokes around on TV. Heh. Unfortunately "Adonal Dampier" is now only half the man he used to be.
First off, I love Foyle because he's not afraid to get posterized by anyone in the league. He'll go for any block, even if there's a good chance he'll get dunked on.And, even if he gets dunked on, he'll be right there trying to block the shot the next time the guy comes at him. That shouldn't be a rare quality in this league, but it is. There aren't many guys like him who are team first and have no ego. Now for the question at hand...if I was putting a team together from scratch, I'd take Boozer over Foyle nearly every time. Boozer is a bit of a risk at his contract, but I think he'll be worth it. By the way, it really pains me to say that because the second Boozer back stabbed Paxson and the Cavs he became one of my least favorite players in the league (which is really a shame because I used to like him). But going with the present make up of the team, I think I'd have to take Foyle. The reason is not just because I'm a bit of a homer, it's because I'm a huge fan of Murphy. I honestly believe that if Murphy gets 30-35 minutes a game he'll average 16-17 ppg and 9-11 rpg. He averaged 12/10 in 32 minutes in his only healthy year and he'll be expected to do more scoring this year. Murphy and Boozer play about the same quality of defense and are two of the top young rebounders in the league. The only real difference between Murphy and Boozer is that Murph does his scoring from the outside and Boozer does it from the inside.
Well either way we needed a center. If we got Boozer he couldn't play center so they money would be poorly spent IMO. BTW Best site of my life
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post"> BTW Best site of my life</div>Well I hope you stick around. Welcome.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting upsidedownside7:</div><div class="quote_post">Well either way we needed a center. If we got Boozer he couldn't play center so they money would be poorly spent IMO. BTW Best site of my life</div> Sounds like Boozer is going to Utah.
I agree I think Murphy will be better than Boozer at the PF, but they are very different players, Murph is much more skilled and has a much better outside shot, they are probably equal in rebounding and Defense, even though Booz has some weight to throw around. No way could Boozer play center in the West like Foyle. With regards to this, I think we should lock Murph up this fall when we can offer him an extension. He will have a HUGE year this year, he'll board even more than he did two years ago, with Damp gone, and his outside shooting has 3 point range now. We don't want to have to pay him Boozer money so maybe a 4 year 32 million or something along those lines, and then give Jrich, Qrich type money at the end of the year.
I agree Mister Jennings, we need to lock Murphy up. Like wtwalker already pointed out, Murphy and J-Rich will already be asking for bigger contracts now that Foyle has signed a monster deal.
Welcome all. Actually I hope we lock both Murphy and Jrich up (even though they don't play the toughest D I like watching them play). Those are the two original players I liked in the beginning. Arenas, Jrich, and Murphy were my favorite players. I always thought Antwan was a bit overrated and one dimensional (hell of a scorer though). As for Boozer or Foyle. I'd rather Foyle since defense is the number one priority. I love defense and I love shotblocking. Shotblocking is as good as a dunk http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v292/c...ules2/jrich.gif This is why I like Jrich. Talk about dirty. hehe. Poor Boozer.
Foyle for 8.2 mils or Boozer for 11 mils? Foyle. As much as I hate Foyle's contract, Boozer's contract just blew my mind. Certainly Boozer played very nicely until now, but he isn't exactly a low post threat or defensive stopper. Just imagine Murphy getting 11 mils per year. As much as we overpaid Foyle, we secured center position, the most difficult position to fill...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kwan1031:</div><div class="quote_post">Foyle for 8.2 mils or Boozer for 11 mils? Foyle. As much as I hate Foyle's contract, Boozer's contract just blew my mind. Certainly Boozer played very nicely until now, but he isn't exactly a low post threat or defensive stopper. Just imagine Murphy getting 11 mils per year. As much as we overpaid Foyle, we secured center position, the most difficult position to fill...</div> That was my thought exactly. Plus, with Foyle you know the guy is pretty inspiring when you get to know him. Not only is he a hard worker in the game of basketball, but the guy is really active off the court and is extremely smart. I think that kind of character would rub off on others and would command respect instantly.
I think Foyle definately fits with the team make up better than Boozer would. Plus we may look back at Boozer and Arenas in a few years as part of the starting 5 on the All-Overpaid list. Of course Foyle may be the center. Heck while I'm at it, we can go ahead an pencil in Cardinal at sf. Now we just need a sg. That may end up being Ginobili.
Man no more overspending, Mullin! Foyle filled the need and we're grateful we at least have a center of Foyle's defensive quality rather than nothing at all. If we make the playoffs, chances are better that Jrich and Murph will want to stick around to be on a winning team (that they were a part of from the beginning rather) than go to a team that is garbage and will offer a lot of money.
