Game Thread Yankees vs. Tigers 6/19/15 7:05PM

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  1. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    RHP - Adam Warren, (4-4 3.78 ERA)

    VS.

    RHP Justin Verlander, (0-0 3.60 ERA)

    Lineups to follow...

    LF - Gardner
    3B - Headley
    DH - Rodriquez
    1B - Teixeira
    RF - Beltran
    SS - Gregorius
    2B - Drew
    C - Murphy
    CF - Williams
     
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  2. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...big test,...for both pitchers.
     
  3. Rick2583

    Rick2583 Chairman of the board

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    Sadly even if Warren throws a 2 hit shutout this will in all likelihood be his last start for a while.
     
  4. Yankeefan5545

    Yankeefan5545 Well-Known Member

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    I think the Tigers have lost a bit of bite, good luck to Warren this evening, the kid has earned a starters job.!
     
  5. bern_baby_bern

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    I keep hearing about all of these possible maneuvers with Warren; back to the bullpen, keep him in the rotation for Nova's first month back… it just makes me nauseous that they're playing with these ideas for a good starter while CC sits there and gives you consistently bad innings.
     
  6. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Yup, and if Eovaldi flops again in his next start, he should also be considered for the pen...would not be surprised if Cashman gets bent over again and trades away someone at the deadline...if so, hopefully, it won't be one of the youngsters.
     
  7. Rick2583

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    Warren = 12 games, 69.0 IP, 61 hits, 29 ER, 1.25 WHIP, 4-4 record & a 3.78 ERA

    Eovaldi = 13 games, 70.1 IP, 97 hits, 40 ER, 1.65 WHIP, 5-2 record & a 5.12 ERA

    DAMN! the number that jumps out at me are HITS allowed in basically the same amount of IP.
     
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    You know, Eovaldi out of the bullpen would not be a terrible idea. Does he hit 100MPH when he only has 1 inning to pitch?
     
  9. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...bern, I don't think he's hit 100 mph but I believe he hit 97 a few times in his last start.

    ...problem is, LHers eat him alive...hitting over .400 with an OPS over 1.000
     
  10. Rick2583

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    Last year Eovaldi led the NL in hits allowed with 223 in 200 innings. This year he's on pace to give up over 250 hits.
     
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    Well - if we can all agree, maybe, possibly, if we can all agree quite a few pitchers TODAY, this season, who aren't ace type SP are going to have a couple of VERY BAD starts.........and I know ALL THE GAMES COUNT.....but, however.....
    Take away TWO VERY BAD starts by CC (5/23 bs TEX, 4/25 vs NYM)...and he's averaging a bit over 6 innings per start with 4.26 ERA in 12GS.
    Want to call him a "#5" starter? Fine.
    Want to release him?....Fine....I realize 4.26 isn't good...
    ....just wanted to toss it out for consumption.

    Anxious to see the board jump into "action".... lol
     
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  12. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    ...if you admit that "all games count", why take out the 2 bad starts ?...well, other than trying to paint a slightly better picture of a pitcher who sux.

    ...sorry, it doesn't work that way. It's called a "earned run average"...you can't pick and choose which starts to include. Spin it however you want but the fact remains that CC is supposed to be an ace but is barely a #5.
     
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    Okay, it doesn't work that way, as you said....I guess maybe, possibly, perhaps EVERY PITCHER isn't going to have a stinker or two....okay.

    Thank you.
     
  14. Rick2583

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    Lineup posted in OP.
     
  15. Messiah717

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    CC's numbers are terrible anyway you look at it. If you want to try and find a positive it's that his ERA is in the 4.00s for June after being in the 5.00s for April and May. We shall see what his final June start brings.
     
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    but the fact remains that CC is supposed to be an ace but is barely a #5.

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    CC is supposed to be an ace?
    Why did the Yanks BEGIN the season with him being the designated "#3" behind Tanaka and Pineda?

    Excuse me...I must've missed this. Okay, thank you.

    Thank you very much...I'm learning.
     
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    Is this a feeling?....a 2 hit shutout and all likelihood he's in the bullpen?

    What do you base this on?
     
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    That Nova will be coming into the rotation so who's out if not Warren?
     
  19. cagedlion

    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    I hope Warren does well tonight. He's
    earned the starter's role..... others on
    this staff seem to get a free ride.
    Lack of accountability again reigns in
    Yankeeland.
     
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    cagedlion "I am the problem, and I am the solution."

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    Do you see who gets rewarded on this team? When
    was the last time a young pitcher gets rewarded
    over a vet in this organization? Feeling....yeah, right!
     

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