http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=unde...ov=st&type=lgns "In a poll of 248 players conducted by Sports Illustrated and published in this week's issue, Arenas, Billups, Brand and Chris Bosh - All-Stars all - were the top four vote-getters for the NBA's most underrated player." "The poll also asked who was the most overrrated player in the NBA. Atop that list was New York Knicks guard Stephon Marbury with 12 percent. However, running a strong second with 10 percent was Houston Rockets center Yao Ming, who has been an All-Star in each of his four seasons. The 7-5 pivot is averaging 19.6 points, 9.1 rebounds and 1.5 blocks this season, but his team is in last place in the Southwest Division. " What do you guys think. I can't see how Yao could be overated if the majority of people, excluding Rockets fans, only have negative things to say about Yao. Whose rating are they looking at? If anyone at the center position is overated I would say it would be be Marcus Camby. Everyone was saying how he deserved to be an all-star before injury, but look at his impact on his team. They won 11 out of their last 13 games before he returned to the court. In the games he's played in since his returned, the Nuggets have only won 2 of 8 games. If Camby is so great how can his team be better without him. Now look at Yao. Everyone knows the Rockets record with and without him. He definitely has a positive impact on the Rockets. Ben Wallace is also player I believe is overated. All he does is rebound and blocks a few shots a game. With his absolute lack of offense, I would take many players before him. I believe Rasheed Wallace is a as good a rebounder and defender as Big Ben but with a great offensive game. The Pistons truly became a perennial contender when they traded for Rasheed. I don't see who could start at center instead of Yao. He is, and he has admitted it, that he is not the greatest player, but he arguably the 2nd best center in the league. He is not the most popular player, as the all-star voting shows, but he is the most popular center in the league.
Oh wow, I'm stupid today. I completely misread that entire article... Sorry guys, consider me JustBBall's village idiot.
arenas isnt overrated and neither is bosh marbury use to be one of the best he is getting older plus he doesnt even play hard in NY if he was somewhere else he would be better just like francis but i agree yao is overrated hes just a good center not an all star arenas carries his team he can drop 40 a night at will i dont know how u can say he is overrated hes more underrated than overrated and this is only boshes 3rd year and he plays great
How old are you Swishy? You don't seem to be able to read. The article lists Arenas, Billups, Brand and Chris Bosh as all underated, while the only players they list as overated are Yao and Marbury. I disagree with your statement that Bosh is overated. He's as good as Howard at this point in their careers, definitely a better offensive game. And I don't see how Billups is underated. Since most people consider him a leading candidate for MVP, how can he be underated.
he might be considered 4 mvp but fans dont see him as an mvp candidate thats y he is underrated he is the best pg in the league imo but thats the reason he is considered underrated
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting evolidiot:</div><div class="quote_post">How old are you Swishy? You don't seem to be able to read. The article lists Arenas, Billups, Brand and Chris Bosh as all underated, while the only players they list as overated are Yao and Marbury. I disagree with your statement that Bosh is overated. He's as good as Howard at this point in their careers, definitely a better offensive game. And I don't see how Billups is underated. Since most people consider him a leading candidate for MVP, how can he be underated.</div> Yeah, I'm not really sure what I was reading. I edited my post and I feel pretty stupid right now.
That's kind of a slap in the face to Yao, to be labeled "overrated" by his peers. Strange how a player who's game is critiqued probably more than other player in the league can be considered over-rated. He certainly isn't overrated by the sports media.
of course but in a fans point of view he is overrated hes a good player a 20 and 10 guy a night just consitensy and foul trouble is his problem.
He was the leading vote getter due mainly to his support from China. Of course they will say he is overrated. Does he belong in the all star game? YES. Is he overrated? Yeah, I agree with his peers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting evolidiot:</div><div class="quote_post"> I don't see who could start at center instead of Yao. He is, and he has admitted it, that he is not the greatest player, but he arguably the 2nd best center in the league. He is not the most popular player, as the all-star voting shows, but he is the most popular center in the league.</div> Yao led the all-star voting with 2.3 million votes and I can't say that he's more popular than Shaq,definatley in China but not in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fitch4delk00:</div><div class="quote_post">of course but in a fans point of view he is overrated hes a good player a 20 and 10 guy a night just consitensy and foul trouble is his problem.</div> Say hello to the guy who is watching last season's NBA.
are u serious he still gets in foul trouble ask anyone he might not do it as much as he use to he still does alot of dumb fouls and he isnt consistent the main reason is because of fouls
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">He was the leading vote getter due mainly to his support from China. Of course they will say he is overrated. Does he belong in the all star game? YES. Is he overrated? Yeah, I agree with his peers.</div> With your point, alot of people think yao only starts becuase of china, thats actually wrong counting only paper ballots, meaning only ballots that can be cast in north america yao would still start for the west anyways. china just inflates his numbers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fitch4delk00:</div><div class="quote_post">are u serious he still gets in foul trouble ask anyone he might not do it as much as he use to he still does alot of dumb fouls and he isnt consistent the main reason is because of fouls</div> Yao plays 33.3 MPG. That is good. He does get tired. We have Deke, [Baxter], and Swift to take away minutes from Yao because he is a lot more effective when well rested (as are all big men, because they get tired sooner than the smaller players that run up and down the court). post rushed...ASWeekend.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Johnnybrasco:</div><div class="quote_post">With your point, alot of people think yao only starts becuase of china, thats actually wrong counting only paper ballots, meaning only ballots that can be cast in north america yao would still start for the west anyways. china just inflates his numbers.</div> Of course Yao Ming deserves to start in the West now. The thing is I think one of the biggest piles of bull was when Yao was starting over Shaquille O'Neal. A rookie Yao starting over Shaq who was arguably the greatest player in the league at the time. That's why I feel he is overrated from my experiences. Shaq even won the Game MVP one year coming off of the bench. Has that ever been done before? He obviously was the starter because oh Chinas humongous population during those years, This year and last year however Yao Ming completely was deserving oh his starting role.
I don't get it. Everyone says that Yao is overrated. But who is overrating him? Other than Rockets fans and Chinese fans, I don't see anyone else who can overrate him. And isnt it understandable that the fans of his country, and the fans of the team he's on would support him? If Yao Ming was averaging 10pts and 7 rebounds and was staring in the All-Star game then I would understand. But he's not. Yao Ming is a 20pts 9rbs player. He's the best scoring center in the league and yet he's still overrated? The Los Angeles Lakers have been rumored to make a run at Yao if he was a Free Agent. If Yao Ming was in a popular city like LA, and had a teammate like Kobe would Yao still be overrated? In my opinion Yao Ming is more hated than overrated. People hate the fact that Yao is not aggressive, they hate that Yao is 7'6" and doesnt average more than 10 rebounds, they hate that Yao gets dunked on, they hate that he has alot fans, they hate his culture, they hate that he's not the next Shaq, they hate that Yao is inconsistent, but yet he's still a 20pts 9rbs player. But the main reason why they hate Yao is because he hasn't lived up to the HUGE expectations that were placed on him. People expected alot more from him. It didn't happen, but he's still an All-Star caliber player. They overrate him because they're not him. They don't like the fact that he's so popular, kind of like people hate the fact that Kobe is so good. They're all just Haters.
I think Yao is overrated somewhat. That's not a knock on his ability because he is talented and a quality NBA player, but i think so far the hype has outdone the performance.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Martin:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao led the all-star voting with 2.3 million votes and I can't say that he's more popular than Shaq,definatley in China but not in the league.</div> I have never looked at a all-star ballot, but I'm assuming that when you vote, you don't vote for one player, you vote for a starting lineup. If this is how its done, than all I'm saying is that even if Yao gets the most votes it does not mean he is the most popular player. It might just mean he is the most popular center. The center position is so depleted that there is not a lot of alternative to Yao. If your filling out a lineup you may not like Yao more than a guard, but you might pu Yao at center because of the lack another quality center. Also, let me make a distinction between all-star and all-nba. You cannot deabte whether anyone deserves to be an allstar. It is based on fan voting. Everyone knows it is more a popularity contest. I would say that the all-star voting is 75% popularity and 25% performance based. The all-nba team is the reverse, 75% performance and 25% popularity. People need to stop using the word all-star to describe who they think are superstars. All-star is obviously a player who through his play, and maybe even through his charisma, is popular. Maybe not the best player. Consider this analogy, Tom Cruise is an all-star and Robert Deniro is all-nba. Tom Cruise makes a lot of crap movies and is a marginal actor, but he is one of the most biggest draw in the film industry. Bobby D, on the other hand, is considered a great actor, but no where near the popularity of crazyman Cruise. No one can argue Tom Cruise is an all-star. He may not make great movies like the Godfather, but he is definitely more popular.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fitch4delk00:</div><div class="quote_post">arenas isnt overrated and neither is bosh marbury use to be one of the best he is getting older plus he doesnt even play hard in NY if he was somewhere else he would be better just like francis but i agree yao is overrated hes just a good center not an all star arenas carries his team he can drop 40 a night at will i dont know how u can say he is overrated hes more underrated than overrated and this is only boshes 3rd year and he plays great</div> Is that all one sentence?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting fitch4delk00:</div><div class="quote_post">are u serious he still gets in foul trouble ask anyone he might not do it as much as he use to he still does alot of dumb fouls and he isnt consistent the main reason is because of fouls</div> every player gets in foul toubles once in while kobe gets into foul trouble tmac kg mj do too seems like yao gets in foul trouble a lot because refs r judging him differently as he is 7'6 especially in the beginning of this season and last season's playoffs those who really watched the game instead of highlights know that most of his defensive moves were calls against him ever since the beginning of this season yao controlled his fouls pretty well this is part of the reasons y he's getting 33mpg this season regardless of his fatique he has improved in everyway and now his numbers are greater than shaq's he's getting the most votes because look at the western center list who else should start other than him camby '?' and u should go learn to use punctuations
