Yao still not ready

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Jun 19 2008, 10:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No decision yet on Yao's availability for pre-Olympic tournament

    So the long wait continues...

    Incidentally, I still am amazed that some people are still suggesting that Yao Ming faked the injury. [​IMG]</div>

    Jeez, I guess no one believes players anymore.

    I doubted Kobe's "back spasms" (I got a lot of shit for this one, don't think he faked, just severely over-exagerated)

    I severely doubted Paul Pierce's bullshit Knee injury.

    And I guess people are doubting Yao's too? Never heard of that one before, but I don't understand what his intentions would be to do that????
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And I guess people are doubting Yao's too? Never heard of that one before, but I don't understand what his intentions would be to do that““</div>

    The Olympics. Which would actually be a good reason, for him, because he really loves the Olympics (if you haven't seen him playing for China, you have not seen the REAL Yao). But I just get frustrated that people say he could have kept on playing with a stress fracture. Exactly how they expect him to endanger the rest of his career by playing and worsening an injury, I don't know. [​IMG]

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I severely doubted Paul Pierce's bullshit Knee injury.</div>

    I don't really see how he could have thought, as he was down on the floor, "Let me fake this real bad and I'll come back and fire up the crowd". But whatever. Just as long as fans don't use that as an excuse for the Lakers' loss.

    PS- Nice to see you outside the Lakers forum.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Jun 19 2008, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And I guess people are doubting Yao's too? Never heard of that one before, but I don't understand what his intentions would be to do that?€œ?€œ</div>

    The Olympics. Which would actually be a good reason, for him, because he really loves the Olympics (if you haven't seen him playing for China, you have not seen the REAL Yao). But I just get frustrated that people say he could have kept on playing with a stress fracture. Exactly how they expect him to endanger the rest of his career by playing and worsening an injury, I don't know. [​IMG]

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I severely doubted Paul Pierce's bullshit Knee injury.</div>

    I don't really see how he could have thought, as he was down on the floor, "Let me fake this real bad and I'll come back and fire up the crowd". But whatever. Just as long as fans don't use that as an excuse for the Lakers' loss.

    PS- Nice to see you outside the Lakers forum.
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    Thanks....about PP...you're probably right, he probably did hurt his knee, it's just the way the whole thing played out with the way he was carried off, then the wheel chair....and then his return in minutes like the past 5 minutes didn't happen. It was sketchy, that's all.

    About Yao, I'm surprised to hear you say that, because if that's the case, wouldn't that make Yao a coward? Last I checked, the Houston Rockets are paying Yao millions of dollars to be a Professional NBA basketball player. I understand he has other obligations such as the Olympics and representing his home country, but if he made him self ineligible for the Rockets and sabotaged his team's playoff hopes, I have a major problem with that.

    That probably isn't the case, because Yao just doesn't seem like that kind of a person. But back to what you said, his best basketball should come out for the Rockets too, not just the Olympics.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks....about PP...you're probably right, he probably did hurt his knee, it's just the way the whole thing played out with the way he was carried off, then the wheel chair....and then his return in minutes like the past 5 minutes didn't happen. It was sketchy, that's all.</div>

    There are some times when you get injured, and the feeling of getting injured makes the pain feel worse. But then it turns out to not be so bad. But, whatever.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>About Yao, I'm surprised to hear you say that, because if that's the case, wouldn't that make Yao a coward? Last I checked, the Houston Rockets are paying Yao millions of dollar to be a Professional NBA player. I understand he has other obligations such as the Olympics and representing his home country, but if he made him self ineligible for the Rockets and sabotaged his team's playoff hopes, I have a major problem with that.

    That probably isn't the case, because Yao just doesn't seem like that kind of a person. But back to what you said, his best basketball should come out for the Rockets too, not just the Olympics.</div>

    The most common conspiracy theory is that China forces him to play, which I don't really think is true, because Yao wants to play. But Yao wants to play, although I definitely do not think that he would ever tank on the Rockets. I think he gives his all for the Rockets, and is thankful for what they've done for him, and he's not the kind of guy to abandon them.

    A stress fracture is not the kind of injury you want to continue playing with. It's just a small crack, but it gets bigger and bigger as time goes on, and you can kill your feet that way. Look at Bill Walton...Definitely don't want Yao to turn out that way.

    But, definitely, Yao plays harder for China than Houston. Maybe not in terms of energy, but he plays with authority (partly because he is far and above the best player on the team). He dunks whenever he's anywhere near the basket (which he doesn't do all the time in the NBA), and he generally gets a lot more emotionally involved.

    Maybe that's a bad thing, but I think it's great that he reserves that extra effort for representing his own country.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hang Eleven @ Jun 19 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Thanks....about PP...you're probably right, he probably did hurt his knee, it's just the way the whole thing played out with the way he was carried off, then the wheel chair....and then his return in minutes like the past 5 minutes didn't happen. It was sketchy, that's all.</div>

    There are some times when you get injured, and the feeling of getting injured makes the pain feel worse. But then it turns out to not be so bad. But, whatever.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>About Yao, I'm surprised to hear you say that, because if that's the case, wouldn't that make Yao a coward? Last I checked, the Houston Rockets are paying Yao millions of dollar to be a Professional NBA player. I understand he has other obligations such as the Olympics and representing his home country, but if he made him self ineligible for the Rockets and sabotaged his team's playoff hopes, I have a major problem with that.

    That probably isn't the case, because Yao just doesn't seem like that kind of a person. But back to what you said, his best basketball should come out for the Rockets too, not just the Olympics.</div>

    The most common conspiracy theory is that China forces him to play, which I don't really think is true, because Yao wants to play. But Yao wants to play, although I definitely do not think that he would ever tank on the Rockets. I think he gives his all for the Rockets, and is thankful for what they've done for him, and he's not the kind of guy to abandon them.

    A stress fracture is not the kind of injury you want to continue playing with. It's just a small crack, but it gets bigger and bigger as time goes on, and you can kill your feet that way. Look at Bill Walton...Definitely don't want Yao to turn out that way.

    But, definitely, Yao plays harder for China than Houston. Maybe not in terms of energy, but he plays with authority (partly because he is far and above the best player on the team). He dunks whenever he's anywhere near the basket (which he doesn't do all the time in the NBA), and he generally gets a lot more emotionally involved.

    Maybe that's a bad thing, but I think it's great that he reserves that extra effort for representing his own country.
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    It could also be the competition he's up against...Let's face it, going against Dwight Howard, Shaq O'neal, etc. isn't the same as the other big men in other countries. It could also be a mental thing. Then again, I don't really recall seeing Yao play for China, so I can't really comment on that.
     
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    I don't think Yao would ever miss the opportunity to play in the Olympics. Even though the best he'll finish in is 2nd [​IMG]

    You've got to respect the loyalty he has to his country who have turned him into a national megastar.
     
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    Just as long as he's ready to start the season, there should be nothing to be worried about.

    Houston needs him to be able to compete with the top teams in the league.

    It's going to be an exciting season and hopefully Yao doesn't go down again, I love watching him play.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It could also be the competition he's up against...Let's face it, going against Dwight Howard, Shaq O'neal, etc. isn't the same as the other big men in other countries. It could also be a mental thing. Then again, I don't really recall seeing Yao play for China, so I can't really comment on that.</div>

    Yes, there is no Shaq in international play (although there is a baby Shaq (!) ), but Yao's (probably) going to be facing Howard playing against Team USA. And in the NBA, are Howard and O'Neal the norm or anomalies. Really, there are not a lot of great centers in the league (although that may change with some new guys like Oden and Al Jefferson coming in). And there are some good non-NBA international big men out there.

    However, the main part is the mental thing. His whole demeanor is different.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Just as long as he's ready to start the season, there should be nothing to be worried about.</div>

    I think the main concern of the Rockets is that he would not injure himself playing (aka Pau Gasol). But more than that, I think that it's the wear and tear that has them (and their fans) worried. And you know, I think they're probably right. Yao's not going to be a super-endurance athlete, mainly because he plays so many games (although less in the past few years with the injuries).

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's going to be an exciting season and hopefully Yao doesn't go down again, I love watching him play.</div>

    He has the best moves in the post besides Duncan, really, which often gets overlooked. Oh well.
     
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    He has, I agree, he's so smooth around the basket. If him and Tmac are healthy for the whole year (including the playoffs), I can see them coming out of the West. (with adelman as the coach of course)
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jun 19 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just as long as he's ready to start the season, there should be nothing to be worried about.

    Houston needs him to be able to compete with the top teams in the league.

    It's going to be an exciting season and hopefully Yao doesn't go down again, I love watching him play.</div>

    i am glad to see that you 're a Yao fan!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    I can't imagine Yao not playing, even if it's for just the opener against the USA. Yao takes a lot of pride playing for China and he'll feel obligated to give it a shot even if he's not 100%.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (yinets1860 @ Jun 28 2008, 01:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jun 19 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just as long as he's ready to start the season, there should be nothing to be worried about.

    Houston needs him to be able to compete with the top teams in the league.

    It's going to be an exciting season and hopefully Yao doesn't go down again, I love watching him play.</div>

    i am glad to see that you 're a Yao fan!! [​IMG] [​IMG]
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    One of my favorite players. Best center in the NBA.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Hey how's it going guys, got some time and think I'll hang out here some.

    It's no big deal that Yao isn't ready right now. There's still a month before the Olympics and he should be good then. As long as he's fine at the start of the NBA season I won't have any complaints.

    As for the draft, what brilliant moves Morey made eh. Donte Greene was someone we were ready to take at 25, but sensing that Portland wanted to nab Batum before San Antonio would at 26, DM moved the pick to Portland for 27 and 33. Then, with Greene still on the board at 27 and knowing Memphis wanted Darrell Arthur, Morey once again traded the pick and got a high second rounder next year from Memphis for free. I haven't seen this recap on S2 yet lol, just thought I'd gloat about Morey's brilliance as a GM once again.

    Basically, we got the player we wanted (Donte Greene), and also two free high 2nd round picks, due to some great anticipation and an awesome job of not settling for the easy out.

    Long live Morey! [​IMG]
     
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    Funny, I was planning on making a thread about what a dolt Morey is for wasting an early second round pick on Joey Dorsey. That pick alone screwed up the value he had on paper of helping Portland screw over the Spurs in getting Batum.

    Getting an extra pick next season for the Arthur / Greene swap was nice, but I'm still not impressed with Morey's player selection criteria.
     

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