zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after attack.

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/10/24/us-usa-benghazi-emails-idUSBRE89N02C20121024

     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    If only that video hadn't outraged those peaceful terrorists....
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    This is a pretty big story.

    I don't get it though. I mean I get that the govt. (and Obama) screwed up and 4 people, including our ambassador, were killed.

    What I don't get is why they fought for 2 weeks to deny what was quite apparent to pretty much everyone else. Then they outright lied about it, and pretty much everyone else could tell. They even went after some guy who months ago made a youtube video and arrested him on some (likely) trumped up charge. They even dug through every bit of film footage looking for some speech he made that mentioned both the embassy attack and terrorism as if Obama linked the two.

    Why did it take them 2 weeks to figure out everyone but them knew the truth? Why be such an utter FAIL at the lying about it?

    Jay Carney's EXCUSE doesn't come close to cutting it. Sure, they may have been receiving all sorts of mixed intelligence beforehand, and made a poor choice (people are human, fine) to not defend the embassy better. But emails like this cannot be explained away. It's not Intel, it's a frigging string of emails from the embassy itself, and the individuals and organization responsible for the attack identified (AND THEY CLAIMED RESPONSIBILITY).
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    In all fairness to the Obama administrtation, just because a terrorist group claims to be behind something doesn't make it so. And isn't there some plausible information that the attack may have been fueled, at least in part, by the supposed anti Muslim movie? I mean, I'm not necessarily saying this whole mess could have been avoided (that's also debatable), but they problably had thousands (or tens of thousands) of emails sent when this was going on or soon after and to pick out 1 of all those and then go with it without full verification seems ill advised to me.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att



    hmmm lets see, real time emails from those under attack....drones flying overhead fo hours watching what was going on...warnings ahead of time...heavy arms, vs small cal , rpgs...yeah, sure with all the evidence and those on the ground telling the white house that it was an assualt...sure I can see why he would be conflicted
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Vote for Obama to have congressional hearings on this take up half his second term! :MARIS61:
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    This failed cover-up makes Watergate look like a two-bit scheme.

    Obama's media will cover for him, though, and this won't be a story. Must be nice to have those that control the media to get your back, even when you're caught red-handed in a lame cover-up that tries to deflect blame from your administration's own failures.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    KEEPIN' THEM HONEST!
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    So ... why did the White House send Susan Rice out 5 days after the attack to solely blame the video, and why did both Obama and Hillary blame the video while they had the caskets of those killed lined up behind them?

    What is the benefit?
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Maybe they really thought that with OBL dead, that there was no more Islamic terrorism, so they ruled that out immediately as bad intel?
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    two words...

    election politics
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    I think PapaG won this time, and Blazer Prophet has to eat the cracker.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    I think, if/when the truth comes out, it will show that the drone was transmitting real-time video of the military assault to the President's Situation Room. They could have watched it happen, as it happened, if they chose to.

    Here's what I want to know. Who, exactly, gave the order NOT to attempt to rescue the ambassador? Who made the decision to let 4 Americans die without a fight?

    The US could have had air support there within an hour...and that's if they had to come from Italy. Troops could have been there in a couple of hours.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    That's odd. Wifey made some great chili tonight and I got some saltines to eat with it. So I suppose I did eat the cracker. Golly, you guys are just so smart.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Thanks for the warning. I'll pass on lunch tomorrow. I'm sure you'll be doing the same.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Sez the guy who was lifting a leg, farting his brains out in my work parking lot today as I was handing out Dead Man Ale to him. People wanted to know who the 8 year old was I was talking to.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    You're a smelly old man. The 8-year-old was the kid you were handing Halloween candy to.
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att


    PS: It was Dead Guy Ale. And, thanks! :)

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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    Where were the Marines? By Rand Paul
     
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    Re: zing! White House & State Dept it was Islamic Militants in Libya 2 hrs after att

    That article deals with the fact that Marines should have been guarding the ambassidor before anything happened, and should have been there to protect him.

    I want to know who decided to NOT send troops/air support to attempt a rescue once they knew it was under way. Somebody had to make that call.

    Could they have rescued them? I don't know. But our government didn't even try to save them. It's my understanding that the seige took hours. They just let four Americans die.

    Someone needs to be held accountable, and BEFORE the election.

    Most transparent administration in our history. Horseshit.
     
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