[ official ] 2016 summer moves

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  1. 42N8Bounce

    42N8Bounce Red Hot And Rebuilding

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    Interesting. By my (updated) calcs, to get Howard, we'd have to give up the rights to Kaman (ok), Henderson (bummer), and Leonard (would have liked to re-sign him).

    We'd then be over the CAP and not have any room to sign anyone like Biyombo, Ezeli or Fournier.

    Would that be worth it to get Howard?
     
  2. OSUBlazerfan

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    Yea thats what i thought. Im very ok with renouncing Kaman/Henderson/Lenaord and throwing a max at someone. Don't know if that someone is DHoward though
     
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  3. Fez Hammersticks

    Fez Hammersticks スーパーバッド Zero Cool

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    Howard can work here. On the surface he just doesn't fit this style, however....

    Stotts has an uncanny ability to mesh players into his system.

    Now *if* you go this rout you have to convince him to take less than the max. He's CLEARLY not worth a max let alone a super max - $30m/per.
     
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    Re-Signings
    Maurice Harkless
    Allen Crabbe
    Brian Roberts- Would ideally want a better defender, but not many appealing 3rd pg options and he's nice insurance for Dame & CJ

    FA Additions
    Hassan Whiteside- Rim protecting center that fits the teams timeline perfectly. He has some risk attached to him but it's worth the gamble imo.
    Evan Turner- Gives the Blazers a guy that can take the 2nd unit playmaking burden off of CJ while allowing him to continue to guard pg's.
    John Leuer- Fits in nicely as a Meyers replacement.
    Cheap 3rd String Center

    Losses
    Mason Plumlee- Traded to ATL / HOU / MEM for first rounder
    Chris Kaman- FA
    Meyers Leonard- FA
    Gerald Henderson- FA
    Cliff Alexander- Waived
    Pat Cannaughton- Traded for future 2nd
     
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    You wanna trade plumlee for a first rounder? WTF?
     
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    cap: $92 mil

    blazers salaries (2016-17): $56.8 mil

    Spending $$ without cap holds: (92-56.8=) $35.2 mil

    from Bounce and spotrac:
    (not counting a stretched Varejao)

    Net Spending cash: $0

    Basic Plan: Renounce Henderson, Kaman, Roberts
    Get 35.2 - 7.7 (Leonard) - 7.2 (Harkless) - 1.2 (Crabbe) = $19.1 Mil

    Again, from Bounce:
    So, if I have the numbers right, we have 19.1 mil to spend - not enough to get a max contract player assuming we want to keep Biebs, Harkless, and Crabbe (which I think we do).

    It is also not obvious how other teams are going to have so much $$ without ditching most of their rosters.


    may have to edit later. Bounce and spotrac don't agree on cap holds.

     
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    If Whiteside spurns the Blazers, a Gorgui Dieng trade seems possible. Free agent in 2017 and not sure if he's a fit with KAT.
     
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    Depending on the pick (Mem has a 2017 first via Denver that I'd be willing to trade straight up for), a usable piece could be fetched as well I guess.
     
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    It's fine. Both are 5/4's and I think ideally they want more shooting /defensive mobility around Towns, but there's no doubt that they should flashes of good chemistry.
     
  11. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    Your numbers are way off. $56M? Were paying $49M after Lillard gets his bump from making an all NBA team. With Crabbes hold, we'd have about $42M in cap space.

    With one of Meyers/Harkless holds, we'd have approx. $35M in cap space.

    With all three of their holds, we'd have $27M in cap, good for the max, barely not enough for the super max.
     
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    Allen Crabbe isn't going anywhere. Pay the man.
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    if olshey strikes out on one of the big name max players, I could totally see him splitting our cap to get two guys that are just bellow those top level players but still fit the career arc, which when you think about it, that's totally his style. maybe even so much his style, he doesn't even waist his time on the big names and quickly does this so dame can get them all to socal for a team bonding session.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Here are our salaries.

    The podcast is good too, they go VERY in depth into Portland's cap-space. Starts at around 2/3 of the way through.

    They said to offer:

    Crabbe - 4 years/40-46 million
    Harkless - 3 years/24 million
    Leonard - 3 years/27 million

    Target:

    Whiteside or Horford to go all in
    Biyombo and Ezeli
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    very nice!

    unless I am reading that wrong, they are suggesting the same thing I did with going after whiteside for the max and then get to the cap with adding biyombo as well.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    A s&t of Crabbe for Kanter (or Ibaka) would work really well for both teams.

    Would OKC do that? Would we?
     
  17. Mediocre Man

    Mediocre Man Mr. SportsTwo

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    You all know, that I don't know much, but if it were me in charge, I would look for more 2 way players. It just so happens that Al Horford is one of the best 2 way players in the league.

    So, I would hope and pray that we could convince him to sign here. Then I would go after
    I would not if I were OKC. For Kanter anyway
     
  18. TBpup

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    I don't think they keep all three of Harkless, Crabbe and Henderson. Which 2 do they keep? Blazers need more impact.....more quality over quantity.

    Dame - 36 / CJ - 12 / Frazier??
    CJ - 24 / Crabbe - 24 / Connaughton
    Harkless - 32/ Crabbe 6 / Aminu 10 / Montero
    Aminu - 24 / Davis - 24 / Vonleh / Alexander
    Plumlee - 24 / Leonard - 24

    Dame - 36
    CJ - 36
    Crabbe - 30
    Harkless - 32
    Aminu - 34
    Davis - 24
    Plumlee - 24
    Meyers - 24


    That is 8 players with minutes (none over 36) and no Hendo. Also, no minutes for Vonleh which doesn't help develop him and Montero has the best skills of any of the SF options so would like to see him have a chance to develop that raw potential.

    If Portland does bring in someone, it need to be an impact upgrade and we might have to see guys we thought could contribute be moved as there is only room for 9 players to get minutes at the max on a consistent basis with maybe mop up/spot minutes for # 10-13.
     
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    The Greg Monroe project didn't really take off in Milwaukee. Would Neil revisit that in a trade? Rumors had him available at the deadline for the right price. He would be a nice offensive addition. He's a poor defender, but the Blazers don't seem to care about that (I don't mean that as a slam) 17.1 next year. If they get rid of a few cap holds, they could get him plus someone else.
     
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    selloutking BALL DON'T LIE!

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    not after this season where they are finding out that he is playing better than ibaka
    I wouldn't try and get ibaka either though cause he seems to have hit an early decline.
     

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