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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's not that Boston didn't help itself by acquiring Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett. It's just that Jason Kidd likes what Toronto did last season, winning the division, and what they have done over the off-season, adding outside shooting and athleticism. "Everybody forgets about them. If they can stay healthy, they'll be right there," says Kidd. Meanwhile, Al Iannazzone, writing for Pro Basketball News, does an analysis of blockbuster trades, including the Net trade for Kidd, and likes Boston's chances.</div></p>

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nba/story/10336902</p>
 
Toronto is the divison champ until someone takes it away.</p>

Its going to be one hell of divison race.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And what about us?</div></p>

Do you really expect Kidd to come and say, they're the favorites in the Division? Kidd's going to try to make it happen, and not by saying it. It's possible for the Nets to be the top team in the Atlantic Divsion again, it all depends on how they play throughout the season. If they start off slow, and Boston doesn't, it's going to be a chasing game all year. </p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nice to meat you Kidd.</div></p>

Same here. </p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kidd)</div><div class='quotemain'>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>And what about us?</div></p>

Do you really expect Kidd to come and say, they're the favorites in the Division? Kidd's going to try to make it happen, and not by saying it. It's possible for the Nets to be the top team in the Atlantic Divsion again, it all depends on how they play throughout the season. If they start off slow, and Boston doesn't, it's going to be a chasing game all year. </p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Nice to meat you Kidd.</div></p>

Same here. </p></div>

I was joking. I do that a lot. </p>
 
I don't know if a team coached by Sam Mitchell can withstand actual competition.
 
I agree with him. I don't see Boston winning the division, though it should be a great race.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if a team coached by Sam Mitchell can withstand actual competition.</div>

I hate to kind of agree with this, but yea. He has very simplistic plays, which can hurt us a lot. I mean, the Nets, found out what we did, and just collapsed on Bosh, while Sam Mitchell had no answer, but I think this year can be different. With Kapono keeping guys on the perimeter, Parker slashing and catch-and-shoot. Bargnani with the 3 and his quickness for a 7 footer and Bosh...nuff said.</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if a team coached by Sam Mitchell can withstand actual competition.</div>

I hate to kind of agree with this, but yea. He has very simplistic plays, which can hurt us a lot. I mean, the Nets, found out what we did, and just collapsed on Bosh, while Sam Mitchell had no answer, but I think this year can be different. With Kapono keeping guys on the perimeter, Parker slashing and catch-and-shoot. Bargnani with the 3 and his quickness for a 7 footer and Bosh...nuff said.</p>

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</p>

The offensive talent is incredibly good, but the Raps need a coach that makes them play defense.</p>

AP sets the tone, but if he misses any time I don't know if Mitchell can get them to stop anyone. </p>

Honestly, sometimes I don't know if Mitchell even cares about that end of the floor. He seems content to just outscore the other team. That's a bad mentality. </p>

The good news is that Boston is far more likely to be done in by their coach. </p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if a team coached by Sam Mitchell can withstand actual competition.</div>

I hate to kind of agree with this, but yea. He has very simplistic plays, which can hurt us a lot. I mean, the Nets, found out what we did, and just collapsed on Bosh, while Sam Mitchell had no answer, but I think this year can be different. With Kapono keeping guys on the perimeter, Parker slashing and catch-and-shoot. Bargnani with the 3 and his quickness for a 7 footer and Bosh...nuff said.</p>

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</p>

The offensive talent is incredibly good, but the Raps need a coach that makes them play defense.</p>

AP sets the tone, but if he misses any time I don't know if Mitchell can get them to stop anyone. </p>

Honestly, sometimes I don't know if Mitchell even cares about that end of the floor. He seems content to just outscore the other team. That's a bad mentality. </p>

The good news is that Boston is far more likely to be done in by their coach. </p>

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Well, he lets his players play, which sometimes I like and sometimes I don`t. I love our offense, but, our defense does need to improve. I`m tired of getting horribly out rebounded every night. But, I mean, we won 47 games, we can more this year, and maybe, just MAYBE, Mitchell will have a better game plan.</p>

AP is a good defender, he can dictate where his man is going to go, but other then Bosh behind him, our help sometimes lacks. I rather we score less and win, but play great defense.</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if a team coached by Sam Mitchell can withstand actual competition.</div>

I hate to kind of agree with this, but yea. He has very simplistic plays, which can hurt us a lot. I mean, the Nets, found out what we did, and just collapsed on Bosh, while Sam Mitchell had no answer, but I think this year can be different. With Kapono keeping guys on the perimeter, Parker slashing and catch-and-shoot. Bargnani with the 3 and his quickness for a 7 footer and Bosh...nuff said.</p></div>

</p>

i think, at times, Frank has even more simplistic plays. if we didn't have Kidd to make this offense better, and had someone like, for example, Billups, we would suck 1434 times worse (at least). </p>

Tho, i gotta love Frank's defensive mentality. and the addition of Hill will only make the defense better...i just hope this year, we find some better offense...somehow </p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know if a team coached by Sam Mitchell can withstand actual competition.</div>

I hate to kind of agree with this, but yea. He has very simplistic plays, which can hurt us a lot. I mean, the Nets, found out what we did, and just collapsed on Bosh, while Sam Mitchell had no answer, but I think this year can be different. With Kapono keeping guys on the perimeter, Parker slashing and catch-and-shoot. Bargnani with the 3 and his quickness for a 7 footer and Bosh...nuff said.</p></div>

</p>

i think, at times, Frank has even more simplistic plays. if we didn't have Kidd to make this offense better, and had someone like, for example, Billups, we would suck 1434 times worse (at least). </p>

Tho, i gotta love Frank's defensive mentality. and the addition of Hill will only make the defense better...i just hope this year, we find some better offense...somehow </p></div>

Lmao, where did you get the 1434?</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (mynetsforlife)</div><div class='quotemain'>CAuse he's on a whole nutha level.</div>

</p> a whole nutha level. Level 1434, to be exact.
 
I think you've got to pay Toronto lip service because they won it last year, but although it'll be a three team race, I'm expecting Boston and us to be the top 2 serious contenders.
 
It will deffenatly be a race for the Atlantic. Raptors,Boston, and The Nets will all be really close.</p>

It's going to be an exciting division.</p>
 
I think 4 teams will really be fighting for that division. Don't count out the Knicks, they could be the "Dark Horse" of the Eastern Conference. With a front court of Curry-Randolph you could have one of the best rebounding duo's in the East. Along with Crawford, Balkman, Marbury and Robinson. With some rookies like Chandler, they could surprise a lot of people. The 76ers aren't really gunna be competing because they are way to young and with to many rookies in the line-up.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think 4 teams will really be fighting for that division. Don't count out the Knicks, they could be the "Dark Horse" of the Eastern Conference. With a front court of Curry-Randolph you could have one of the best rebounding duo's in the East. Along with Crawford, Balkman, Marbury and Robinson. With some rookies like Chandler, they could surprise a lot of people. The 76ers aren't really gunna be competing because they are way to young and with to many rookies in the line-up.</div></p>

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The Knicks might be able to hold off the Sixers, Pacers and Bucks if everything goes perfectly. </p>

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^I think they can, because Curry - Randolph can be dangerous if used right. The Pacers might not be able to do much, I don't see much improvement in their team, and the Bucks should be better, but we'll see and the Sixers, again are young, but you never know.</p>

All I'm saying is, don't count out the Knicks.</p>
 
Boston is overrated like hell already. There will be too much pressure on Rajon Rando to get KG, Pierce, and Allen all their looks and points. Even with their hunger and desire, I doubt they go that far this year. I really think that we could give them a run for their money and possibly even Toronto could too. Plus it's not like Boston has a deep bench with Eddie House and James Posey only.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GrandKenyon6)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Knicks will be dreadful just like they are every year.</div>

</p>

Are you not reading my posts? they could be a lot better because of how they improved their roster. They could go at the 8th or 7th spot if they can keep teams like the Bucks, Bobcats, 76ers down while playing above .500 basketball all year.</p>
 
Curry and Randolph . . . where's the D?</p>

Both blackholes on offense, a horrible big man combo. Result? The Knicks are not making the playoffs. </p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Curry and Randolph . . . where's the D?</p>

Both blackholes on offense, a horrible big man combo. Result? The Knicks are not making the playoffs. </p></div>

</p>

Defense, is a problem, but both can motivate each other to play defense and get better. Randolph can hit that jumper sometimes and Curry can be dominate when he asserts himself.</p>

Horrible big man combo? No that bad. They have mental problems mostly and just need a shot in the back to get them going. I'm saying that if they can get going, it can be dangerous...in more ways then one.</p>
 
Kidd is a horrible GM and has generally been a pretty poor analyst as well.</p>
 
The Sixers, Pacers and Bucks are in the 20-30 win category.</p>

The Knicks might be able to finish better than one or more of these teams, but things have to break right.</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think 4 teams will really be fighting for that division. Don't count out the Knicks, they could be the "Dark Horse" of the Eastern Conference. With a front court of Curry-Randolph you could have one of the best rebounding duo's in the East. Along with Crawford, Balkman, Marbury and Robinson. With some rookies like Chandler, they could surprise a lot of people. The 76ers aren't really gunna be competing because they are way to young and with to many rookies in the line-up.</div>

</p>

Curry sucks at rebounding, but Randolph is a pretty good rebounder. put him alongside david lee instead, and you've got a great rebounding duo. that'd probably be the 3rd best in the east, next to oneal-haslem and oneal-foster.</p>

half the knicks roster doesn't even play defense, and only 1 or 2 of those guys are real winners. i think they're gonna have more trouble than some people think.</p>

and boston...eh. depends on injuries to their big 3, and how everyone meshes. </p>

on the other hand, boston had a great season last year, while the nets struggled with injuries.</p>

so i'd say Jason Kidd was pretty right with his assessment. Toronto's on top of this division. </p>
 
Knicks are going to finish above the Pacers, Sixers, and Bucks. I just don't think they can screw it up that bad, and become a 20-win team again. If you think about it, they are a very talented team, so if they play together, they could be deadly in the Atlantic Division. I still have much faith in my Nets, though.
 
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