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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jizzy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

it depends on the deal. if we can get Warrick back with Pau, then I'd trade Sean. Sean is a great young big but they'll be players like him next draft. Seans a phenominal shotblocker bu still a average rebounder and and only relies on dunks to score. eh, IDK</p>

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I'd only throw in Sean if they promise to keep Warrick.</p>

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Lesser "scoring" big guy sounds like Troy Murphy or Brad Miller to me</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Lesser "scoring" big guy sounds like Troy Murphy or Brad Miller to me</p>

</div></p>

Krstic replacements who are huge upgrades over Malik Allen but have horrible contracts.</p>

Both fit the Nets' offense very well, but there are better options.</p>

Nick Collison and Zaza would be much, much better pickups than these guys.</p>

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Might be this dude from the Bobcats Walter Hermann he's a scoring big and Charlotte is desperate for a tough minded bigman and I doubt VC or RJ or SWAT are going anywhere , I hope Collins is getting shipped out</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Might be this dude from the Bobcats Walter Hermann he's a scoring big and Charlotte is desperate for a tough minded bigman and I doubt VC or RJ or SWAT are going anywhere , I hope Collins is getting shipped out</p>

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If it's Murphy or Miller Collins is definitely in the deal. Magloire, too.</p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Lesser "scoring" big guy sounds like Troy Murphy or Brad Miller to me</p>

</div></p>

Krstic replacements who are huge upgrades over Malik Allen but have horrible contracts.</p>

Both fit the Nets' offense very well, but there are better options.</p>

Nick Collison and Zaza would be much, much better pickups than these guys.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

You've got to start with guys that could be available. Why on earth would the cheap Hawks give up their only realy center when he is only making 4 million a season? Seattle could move Nick, but he is BYC this season so unless Wally is coming back to the Nets, that makes it a nearly impossible trade to configure.</p>

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Might be this dude from the Bobcats Walter Hermann he's a scoring big and Charlotte is desperate for a tough minded bigman and I doubt VC or RJ or SWAT are going anywhere , I hope Collins is getting shipped out</p>

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Fabio isn't a big, but he can play some minutes at the 4</p>

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<span class="postbody"><span id="intelliTxt" name="intelliTxt"> New Jersey Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: +11.5 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and +1.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Kareem Rush
6-6 SG from Missouri
4.1 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 12.5 minutes
David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
5.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14.2 minutes
Troy Murphy
6-11 PF from Notre Dame
11.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 25.2 minutes
Outgoing Players
Malik Allen
6-10 PF from Villanova
5.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 17.4 minutes
Jamaal Magloire
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 19.5 minutes

Indiana Trade Breakdown
Change in Team Outlook: -11.5 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and -1.3 apg.
Incoming Players
Malik Allen
6-10 PF from Villanova
5.3 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.9 apg in 17.4 minutes
Jamaal Magloire
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes
Jason Collins
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 19.5 minutes
Outgoing Players
Kareem Rush
6-6 SG from Missouri
4.1 ppg, 1.1 rpg, 0.9 apg in 12.5 minutes
David Harrison
7-0 C from Colorado
5.0 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 14.2 minutes
Troy Murphy
6-11 PF from Notre Dame
11.3 ppg, 6.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 25.2 minutes

gets rid of the Collins and Malik starting front court
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Lesser "scoring" big guy sounds like Troy Murphy or Brad Miller to me</p>

</div></p>

Krstic replacements who are huge upgrades over Malik Allen but have horrible contracts.</p>

Both fit the Nets' offense very well, but there are better options.</p>

Nick Collison and Zaza would be much, much better pickups than these guys.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

You've got to start with guys that could be available. Why on earth would the cheap Hawks give up their only realy center when he is only making 4 million a season? Seattle could move Nick, but he is BYC this season so unless Wally is coming back to the Nets, that makes it a nearly impossible trade to configure.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

The Hawks are stupid, so who knows what they'd do?</p>

How much value does Marcus Williams have? Enough to give up Collison and about $4M in expiring money?</p>

They obviously hate Ridnour and have no PG for the future.</p>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collison_Nick_sea.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Nick Collison</span>
6-9 PF / C from Kansas
8.5 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Thomas_Kurt_phx.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Kurt Thomas</span>
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.0 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Williams_Marcus_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Marcus Williams</span>
6-3 PG from Connecticut
No games yet played in 2007/08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Magloire_Jamaal_por.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jamaal Magloire</span>
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collins_Jason_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Jason Collins</span>
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 19.5 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I wouldn't give the Sonics Marcus no no no</p>

</div></p>

The Nets get $4M in expiring contracts and rid themselves of Collins' deal.</p>

They also get two PF this season that fit their system like a glove - along with Collison going forward.</p>

They get instantly much, much better. If they are trading to improve right away, they have to give up something</p>

The Nets would do this deal. It would probably cost the Sonics too much, but maybe they like the idea of Marcus to go along with Durant, Green and all their young bigs. He seems to fit their style of play.</p>

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If the Sonics make that trade, they are trying harder to tank than the 2006-2007 Celtics</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I wouldn't give the Sonics Marcus no no no</p>

</div></p>

The Nets get $4M in expiring contracts and rid themselves of Collins' deal.</p>

They also get two PF this season that fit their system like a glove - along with Collison going forward.</p>

They get instantly much, much better. If they are trading to improve right away, they have to give up something</p>

The Nets would do this deal. It would probably cost the Sonics too much, but maybe they like the idea of Marcus to go along with Durant, Green and all their young bigs. He seems to fit their style of play.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

The Sonics can get a PG much better than Marcus in the 2008 draft.</p>

</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

If the Sonics make that trade, they are trying harder to tank than the 2006-2007 Celtics</p>

</div></p>

Aaaaand...</p>

Another perk!</p>

</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

I wouldn't give the Sonics Marcus no no no</p>

</div></p>

The Nets get $4M in expiring contracts and rid themselves of Collins' deal.</p>

They also get two PF this season that fit their system like a glove - along with Collison going forward.</p>

They get instantly much, much better. If they are trading to improve right away, they have to give up something</p>

The Nets would do this deal. It would probably cost the Sonics too much, but maybe they like the idea of Marcus to go along with Durant, Green and all their young bigs. He seems to fit their style of play.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

The Sonics can get a PG much better than Marcus in the 2008 draft.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

You need to pay more attention to this board.</p>

Perhaps then you would be more educated as to his trade value, which is off the charts!</p>

</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

then say goodbye to Sean Williams</p>

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Yes. The question, of course, is whether Rod wants to try to win a championship within the next two years. Sean won't help them do that.</p>

</p>

</div></p>

</p>

I disagree. I think Sean could absolutely be a contributor on a championship contender this year, though not a starter.</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

The Hawks are stupid, so who knows what they'd do?</p>

How much value does Marcus Williams have? Enough to give up Collison and about $4M in expiring money?</p>

They obviously hate Ridnour and have no PG for the future.</p>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collison_Nick_sea.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Nick Collison</span>
6-9 PF / C from Kansas
8.5 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Thomas_Kurt_phx.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Kurt Thomas</span>
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.0 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Williams_Marcus_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Marcus Williams</span>
6-3 PG from Connecticut
No games yet played in 2007/08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Magloire_Jamaal_por.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jamaal Magloire</span>
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collins_Jason_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Jason Collins</span>
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 19.5 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

</p>

</div></p>

</p>

I think that might work if we threw in a lottery protected first round pick.</p>

</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JAMES.SLIMM)</div><div class='quotemain'>

I wouldn't give the Sonics Marcus no no no</p>

</div></p>

Ican'tbetheonlyonethatreadthistothetuneofthatAmyWinehousesong.</p>

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[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='cpawfan']</p>

[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='cpawfan']</p>

Lesser "scoring" big guy sounds like Troy Murphy or Brad Miller to me</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

Krstic replacements who are huge upgrades over Malik Allen but have horrible contracts.</p>

Both fit the Nets' offense very well, but there are better options.</p>

Nick Collison and Zaza would be much, much better pickups than these guys.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

You've got to start with guys that could be available. Why on earth would the cheap Hawks give up their only realy center when he is only making 4 million a season? Seattle could move Nick, but he is BYC this season so unless Wally is coming back to the Nets, that makes it a nearly impossible trade to configure.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

The Hawks are stupid, so who knows what they'd do?</p>

How much value does Marcus Williams have? Enough to give up Collison and about $4M in expiring money?</p>

They obviously hate Ridnour and have no PG for the future.</p>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th colspan="2" scope="col">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collison_Nick_sea.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Nick Collison</span>
6-9 PF / C from Kansas
8.5 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Thomas_Kurt_phx.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Kurt Thomas</span>
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.0 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table width="100%" class="breakdowntable">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th colspan="2" scope="col">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Williams_Marcus_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Marcus Williams</span>
6-3 PG from Connecticut
No games yet played in 2007/08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Magloire_Jamaal_por.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jamaal Magloire</span>
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collins_Jason_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Jason Collins</span>
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 19.5 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

I wish.</p>

</p>
 
[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='cpawfan']</p>

[quote name='ghoti']</p>

[quote name='cpawfan']</p>

Lesser "scoring" big guy sounds like Troy Murphy or Brad Miller to me</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

Krstic replacements who are huge upgrades over Malik Allen but have horrible contracts.</p>

Both fit the Nets' offense very well, but there are better options.</p>

Nick Collison and Zaza would be much, much better pickups than these guys.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

You've got to start with guys that could be available. Why on earth would the cheap Hawks give up their only realy center when he is only making 4 million a season? Seattle could move Nick, but he is BYC this season so unless Wally is coming back to the Nets, that makes it a nearly impossible trade to configure.</p>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

The Hawks are stupid, so who knows what they'd do?</p>

How much value does Marcus Williams have? Enough to give up Collison and about $4M in expiring money?</p>

They obviously hate Ridnour and have no PG for the future.</p>
<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Incoming Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collison_Nick_sea.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Nick Collison</span>
6-9 PF / C from Kansas
8.5 ppg, 7.6 rpg, 1.6 apg in 26.2 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Thomas_Kurt_phx.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Kurt Thomas</span>
6-9 PF / C from Texas Christian
6.3 ppg, 9.4 rpg, 1.4 apg in 23.0 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<table class="breakdowntable" width="100%">
<tbody>
<tr>
<th scope="col" colspan="2">Outgoing Players</th>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Williams_Marcus_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Marcus Williams</span>
6-3 PG from Connecticut
No games yet played in 2007/08</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Magloire_Jamaal_por.jpg
</td>
<td class="even"><span class="playername">Jamaal Magloire</span>
6-11 C from Kentucky
2.4 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.7 minutes</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td class="photo">
Collins_Jason_njn.jpg
</td>
<td><span class="playername">Jason Collins</span>
7-0 C from Stanford
1.2 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 0.7 apg in 19.5 minutes</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>

</p>

[/QUOTE]</p>

Iannazone said Marcus Williams has a lot fo value even though he's injured so obviously you and Cpawfan are wrong about him but Id do this deal.</p>
 
Look at the Hornets roster. See any scoring bigs there? Hilton Armstrong? Rasual Butler? Ryan Bowen? None seem to qualify, although the Nets have liked both Armstrong and Butler in the past. Byron Scott said with Melvin Ely suffering a fracture in his eye socket the other night (courtesy of a KMart elbow), the Hornets may need a replacement. Hornets looking for a big man...Magloire was an all-star in New Orleans. Hmmm.</p>
 
So you are saying Kenyon could have helped the Nets this season by creating a market for Magloire?</p>

KVH never would have done that </p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Look at the Hornets roster. See any scoring bigs there? Hilton Armstrong? Rasual Butler? Ryan Bowen? None seem to qualify, although the Nets have liked both Armstrong and Butler in the past. Byron Scott said with Melvin Ely suffering a fracture in his eye socket the other night (courtesy of a KMart elbow), the Hornets may need a replacement. Hornets looking for a big man...Magloire was an all-star in New Orleans. Hmmm.</p>

</div></p>

</p>

David West? No way in hell we'd be gettin David West</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

So you are saying Kenyon could have helped the Nets this season by creating a market for Magloire?</p>

KVH never would have done that </p>

</div></p>

His loyalty knows no bounds...and Marc Stein suggested that KVH come out of retirement, sign a deal with the Mavs to help the Nets rid themselves of that troublesome priest, Kidd.</p>

</p>
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (peg182)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome)</div><div class='quotemain'></p>

Look at the Hornets roster. See any scoring bigs there? Hilton Armstrong? Rasual Butler? Ryan Bowen? None seem to qualify, although the Nets have liked both Armstrong and Butler in the past. Byron Scott said with Melvin Ely suffering a fracture in his eye socket the other night (courtesy of a KMart elbow), the Hornets may need a replacement. Hornets looking for a big man...Magloire was an all-star in New Orleans. Hmmm.</p>

</div></p>

</p>

David West? No way in hell we'd be gettin David West</p>

</div></p>

No one suggested that.</p>

</p>
 

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