He's the perfect fit with Devin Harris. Look how open Dirk is when Harris kicks it back to him. It would be nice to have a three point threat when that happens.
This would be a great trade for us. One of the biggest detriments this season has been our bench scoring, and Miller would solve that problem easily. Here he would be used in a similar fashion to Manu Ginobili and would be a 6th man of the year quality player. Harris is a really good young PG. With Swat and Swift providing energy off the Bench with Miller and Marcus we would have one of the best if not the best second units in the league. While Harris would be a drop off at PG this season, he will be an improvement from Jkidd in the coming seasons. These trades make us younger, deeper and give us more flexibility with the cap. I don't think that we should trade Vince this season...I won't kill Thorn if Jermaine O'neal is healthy and we trade for him but I'd like a half season to see what this lineup could do. PG: Devon Harris, Marcus Williams SG: Vince Carter, Mike Miller SF: Richard Jefferson, Deaven George PF: Nenad Krstic, Sean Williams C: Josh Boone, Stromile Swift, Diop That looks like a very good team to me.
that is not a very good team, it a start at what could become a good team. that lineup is still .500 and spells of a 1st rd or 2nd rd exit in the eastern confernce playoffs whats sad about the east is that because there are so many bad teams you could still be a playoff team with a losing record! just pathetic
Two possible scenarios. NJ-Mem-Ind NJ out: Magloire, Nachbar, M. Williams, 2nd rd pick, $3mm cash NJ in: Miller, Lowry Mem out: Miller, Lowry Mem in: Magloire, Nachbar, Diogu, NJ 2nd rd pick Indy out: Diogu Indy in: M. Williams NJ-Mem-Clips NJ out: Magloire, Nachbar, M. Williams, 2nd rd pick NJ in: Miller, Lowry Mem out: Miller, Lowry, Cardinal, 2nd rd pick Mem in: Cassell, Magloire, Nachbar, NJ 2nd rd pick Clips out: Cassell Clips in: M. Williams, Cardinal, Mem 2nd rd pick, $3mm cash In the first scenario Memphis gets out of Millers contract and gets a big for Lowry, Indy gets a pg in Williams. In the 2nd scenario the Clips get their pg in Williams but they have to take on Cardinal and Memphis gets out of Cardinal's deal.
Let's just have Thron and Kinki go over to Memphis and have a beer with Chris "house-cleaning" Wallace. I heard that's how Mitch got Pau.
those deals make sense for memphis and the nets, but i dont see it workin out for the other teams i mean idk if the pacers are lookin to movie an expiring contract in Diogu for marcus williams and for the clips im not sure if they want to take on any salary, thats what so difficult about gettin a 3 team trade done
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Feb 14 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>those deals make sense for memphis and the nets, but i dont see it workin out for the other teams i mean idk if the pacers are lookin to movie an expiring contract in Diogu for marcus williams and for the clips im not sure if they want to take on any salary, thats what so difficult about gettin a 3 team trade done</div> Both Indy and the Clips need a pg for the future and both have been interested in Marcus. Indy one I think is more feasible, but I'm not sure if Memphis does any deal that doesn't get rid of Cardinal's contract. That's why i came up with the Clip one. Depends how desperate they are if they would want Cardinal's deal, but I include cash from the Nets to Clips (just realized I forgot to put that in the post). Since the Nets save cash this year on the Kidd trade I figured they could send the $3mm to help with Cardinal.
If a post-Kidd trade of either Carter or Jefferson is contemplated, the Nets would be stupid if it weren't Jefferson. His value right now, with his career year in scoring and him finally healthy, is as high as it will ever be. Trade him before people find out how much of his success was due to leaking out early and having Kidd rebound the ball, dribble once, and fire ahead so he could go one on one to get a basket or a foul. Without Kidd, RJ's value is going to plummet pretty fast, partly because his morale will suffer at not getting the same kind of early offense opportunities On the other hand, Vince's value could only go up from its current abysmal state because of his injury/poor performance the first half of the season. Furthermore, Carter is much more capable than Jefferson of producing at his customary level without Kidd simply because Kidd's and Carter's games were never very complimentary to begin with.
yes, I wanted Miller on our team with Kidd...I'll take him without Kidd too. this would be a very good deal. A big improvment. There's no need for Mags at all anymore, and Miller is a step up from Boki. I really hope this goes through...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Feb 14 2008, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If a post-Kidd trade of either Carter or Jefferson is contemplated, the Nets would be stupid if it weren't Jefferson. His value right now, with his career year in scoring and him finally healthy, is as high as it will ever be. Trade him before people find out how much of his success was due to leaking out early and having Kidd rebound the ball, dribble once, and fire ahead so he could go one on one to get a basket or a foul. Without Kidd, RJ's value is going to plummet pretty fast, partly because his morale will suffer at not getting the same kind of early offense opportunities On the other hand, Vince's value could only go up from its current abysmal state because of his injury/poor performance the first half of the season. Furthermore, Carter is much more capable than Jefferson of producing at his customary level without Kidd simply because Kidd's and Carter's games were never very complimentary to begin with.</div> Harris is good on the break. Speed demon. Now that the team is younger I don't see them turning into a halfcourt offense. Not with players like Sean, Boone, and Swift upfront. I think Carter is still needed in the halfcourt, but I don't see this trade as having that big of an impact on the style the team will try to play.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver @ Feb 14 2008, 12:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>yes, I wanted Miller on our team with Kidd...I'll take him without Kidd too. this would be a very good deal. A big improvment. There's no need for Mags at all anymore, and Miller is a step up from Boki. I really hope this goes through...</div> Regardless of whether we have Kidd or Harris we should pursue this deal...throw in a first if we have to. Miller could be an amazing 6th man and potential replacement for Carter if he's moved in the offseason. His contract is reasonable and honestly with our bigs ability in the paint and RJ's ability to drive Miller could be deadly from the perimeter.
So, now we want Miller? I'm confused, as to whether the Nets are going to rebuild or not. There's talks about dealing Carter, so what is the point of acquiring Miller? He and Jefferson won't get the team anywhere. Then again neither will Carter, especially if the Raps game was any indication as to what we can expect from him.
so do u guys think the nets hold off on this trade, till the kidd trade goes through? or will this happen regardless? thoughts...
If we trade for Miller, and then trade away Jefferson for someone like...I don't know...maybe Travis Outlaw!!, I'd be a very, very, very happy man.
why not kill 4 birds with one stone lol this was the only way that jefferson for outlaw could work out is if we took on darius miles horrendos contract CHECK IT OUT ESPN TRADE MACHINE i guess takin darius miles contract wouldnt be soo bad if they sent us $3million and 1st rd pick
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Feb 14 2008, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, now we want Miller? I'm confused, as to whether the Nets are going to rebuild or not. There's talks about dealing Carter, so what is the point of acquiring Miller? He and Jefferson won't get the team anywhere. Then again neither will Carter, especially if the Raps game was any indication as to what we can expect from him.</div> I don't think its a rebuild...more like a remodel. Kidd is gonna be 35 in a month and his window is closing...however everybody else on the Nets still have large windows of oppurtunites and plenty of gas in the tank with the exception of possibly Carter(who I see us dealing this offseason) Harris is 24 Marcus is 22 Swat is 21 Boone is 23 Nenad is 24 RJ is 27 Miller is 27 Swift is 28 Maurice Ager is 24 Carter would be are oldest player at 31 I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing. Unfortunately given how much the eastern conference sucks we are going to be a playoff team...making it hard to rebuild. I think we go balls out this year and then take advantage of flexibilty this offseason. Most likely by trading Vince, RJ or both.
we will finally have that shooter we need off the bench! mike miller is the damn man in the nba when he has open shots. i think this would push us to an elite level.
