OT - Camby traded to Clippers

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  1. cpawfan

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Jul 16 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Maybe its time for Kiki to do one of his famous front loaded deals offered to J.R. Smith. Denver won't be able to match it.

    hey denver remember the kenyon deal, pay backs a bitch....

    just a thought.</div>

    The Nets don't have the cap room to do such a trick nor does Ratner have the cash to do such a trick.

    Denver can and would match anything the Nets could offer
     
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    I wonder if they'd take KVH+Boone for Smith now. They get another center and save cash.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if they'd take KVH+Boone for Smith now. They get another center and save cash.</div>

    If JR was going to accept that little in salary, there is no doubt he would be signed to a Nuggets contract
     
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    So, the Nuggets are accepting the fact that they won't make the playoffs next year?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Jul 16 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, the Nuggets are accepting the fact that they won't make the playoffs next year?</div>

    Not at all

    Camby is overrated and the team now has something that is tradeable in the $10 million TE
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if they'd take KVH+Boone for Smith now. They get another center and save cash.</div>

    If JR was going to accept that little in salary, there is no doubt he would be signed to a Nuggets contract
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    well, kvh+boone*1.25 is over 8.5 million, and if they're cutting salary, which they apparently are, they could be interested in that. Boone also may fill a need. They could probably have Marcus, too, which I believe would mean JR could make over 10M/year.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if they'd take KVH+Boone for Smith now. They get another center and save cash.</div>

    If JR was going to accept that little in salary, there is no doubt he would be signed to a Nuggets contract
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    well, kvh+boone*1.25 is over 8.5 million, and if they're cutting salary, which they apparently are, they could be interested in that. Boone also may fill a need. They could probably have Marcus, too, which I believe would mean JR could make over 10M/year.
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    You want the Nets to pay JR Smith $10M per year?!

    Why??
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if they'd take KVH+Boone for Smith now. They get another center and save cash.</div>

    If JR was going to accept that little in salary, there is no doubt he would be signed to a Nuggets contract
    </div>

    well, kvh+boone*1.25 is over 8.5 million, and if they're cutting salary, which they apparently are, they could be interested in that. Boone also may fill a need. They could probably have Marcus, too, which I believe would mean JR could make over 10M/year.
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    Boone makes 1.2

    How much do you think KVH is under contract for?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 01:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wonder if they'd take KVH+Boone for Smith now. They get another center and save cash.</div>

    If JR was going to accept that little in salary, there is no doubt he would be signed to a Nuggets contract
    </div>

    well, kvh+boone*1.25 is over 8.5 million, and if they're cutting salary, which they apparently are, they could be interested in that. Boone also may fill a need. They could probably have Marcus, too, which I believe would mean JR could make over 10M/year.
    </div>

    Boone makes 1.2

    How much do you think KVH is under contract for?
    </div>

    wasn't it 4.3? hm, looks like when i copied it down i got the 6 and 8 mixed up.

    and ghoti, I don't really want to, i was just making a flawed example.
     
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    Ha, and most fans were making fun the Nets for trading RJ for Yi, Simmons.

    And chill with these JR Smith cr4p. The Nets wouldnt even talk to him because he wants more than 2 years. The Nets wont be doing any sign and trade with JR.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 16 2008, 01:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well, kvh+boone*1.25 is over 8.5 million, and if they're cutting salary, which they apparently are, they could be interested in that. Boone also may fill a need. They could probably have Marcus, too, which I believe would mean JR could make over 10M/year.</div>

    Actually that would be a better trade for the Nuggets, because they can cut KVH's salary. However do the Nets want to lose Boone?

    I guess Camby would work for the LBJ plan since his deal is only a 2 year. However he wouldn't be as enticing to have around being a 36 year old center vs. Boone 2 years older.
     
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    According to Rick Bucher on SportsCenter, Thorn and Kiki are still not done.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (isrus @ Jul 16 2008, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>According to Rick Bucher on SportsCenter, Thorn and Kiki are still not done.</div>
    According to Kiki and Thorn they aren't done. That's all they say in every interview.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 15 2008, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is eerily similar to the Kittles trade. Poor Clippers - fool me once, shame on you...</div>

    Thorn got 2 second round picks for Kittles.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 16 2008, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 15 2008, 11:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is eerily similar to the Kittles trade. Poor Clippers - fool me once, shame on you...</div>

    Thorn got 2 second round picks for Kittles.
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    Yes, but Thorn paid cash for that pick.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J., July 29 -- The New Jersey Nets have traded guard Kerry Kittles and cash considerations to the Los Angeles Clippers for a future second round draft pick, Nets CEO Rod Thorn announced today.</div>

    http://www.nba.com/nets/news/kittles_040729.html
     
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    so since they were under the cap, couldnt they have given us picks straight up for Vince?
     
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    who else is out there to get through trade. No one really... there is nocioni, but he has 5 years left on his deal. I don't expect anything higher than the caliber of camby coming to New jersey this off season. I have a strange feeling that Kristic may stay and Sean Williams may leave.
     
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    I think as long as there aren't any contracts more than 2 years, it's a possibility for Kiki-Thorn.

    I think they moved Camby because they're accounting for JR Smith making something close to the MLE this season. Probably a 5 year 30 million dollar deal. Moving Camby was a money thing. Saves them 40 million total salary and lux tax. It makes it easier when they have Nene under contract and Hunter as the backup.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Jul 16 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, the Nuggets are accepting the fact that they won't make the playoffs next year?</div>

    Not at all

    Camby is overrated and the team now has something that is tradeable in the $10 million TE
    </div>
    I disagree. Camby was the team's best defender and rebounder. With him gone there is a gaping hole at center.

    Their remaining bigs: Nene and Martin have a history of injuries.

    I guess their success is contingent on what they do with the trade exception.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Jul 16 2008, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 16 2008, 12:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Mr. J @ Jul 16 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So, the Nuggets are accepting the fact that they won't make the playoffs next year?</div>

    Not at all

    Camby is overrated and the team now has something that is tradeable in the $10 million TE
    </div>
    I disagree. Camby was the team's best defender and rebounder. With him gone there is a gaping hole at center.

    Their remaining bigs: Nene and Martin have a history of injuries.

    I guess their success is contingent on what they do with the trade exception.
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    Camby was not the Nuggets best defender. He was at best 3rd after Kenyon and Najera. Yes, Camby blocked shots, but he created more problems on defense with his lack of rotations and non-existent man defense.

    As far as his rebounding, his numbers were inflated because of all the rebounds he stole from his teammates. Plus we haven't even touched upon how much he screwed up the rather simple Nuggets offense with his demands for shot attempts (and pouting if he didn't get them) and his uselessness on back to backs.
     

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