Which way should we go to fill the last guard position?

Should we pick up JC Carroll, a rookie?

Hodge, a young player, "fallen angel" type?

Trade Sean and/or Stro for a point? - Could be a trade with Memphis for Lowry/Crit, trade with Seattle for Ridnour, etc.

Any other ideas? Any other FA's left, other than Pargo?

I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though

I will pick Hodge.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Aug 5 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I will pick Hodge.</div>

So, what do you say - Hodge at the backup SG position, and Dooling at backup point?

Do we have enough perimeter shooting on the team, right now? Hodge wouldn't address that...

And what about a good, pure playmaking PG? Do we need one of those?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential. I would say Jaycee would be great because he would be cheap, we wouldn't have to give anything up, and he adds hustle, defense, and perimeter shooting. I dont want to give up Sean for a washed up vet 3rd stringer.

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The only way would be if they wanted to get even more cap space next year...but they may be better off keeping them at the low price they've got them at.

Well, let's backtrack . . . the Nets have 15 players under contract, plus Van Horn's contract which they'd love to trade, plus they traditionally like to carry just 14 players. So to carry either Hodge or Carroll, there has to be some juggling to create room. The Nets COULD buy out/release Ager, which would create one slot. I can't imagine them buying out or releasing anyone else, to be honest.

So I think the most pressing thing is to try to get some value for Van Horn's contract while they can . . . I think that will determine what direction they go in, to be honest.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 5 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Aug 5 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I will pick Hodge.</div>

So, what do you say - Hodge at the backup SG position, and Dooling at backup point?

Do we have enough perimeter shooting on the team, right now? Hodge wouldn't address that...

And what about a good, pure playmaking PG? Do we need one of those?
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I like Hodge because Yi and Brooks like to shoot outside. Need big guards to balance that, ones that can rebound and play defense.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Aug 5 2008, 11:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 5 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Malorkayel @ Aug 5 2008, 11:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I will pick Hodge.</div>

So, what do you say - Hodge at the backup SG position, and Dooling at backup point?

Do we have enough perimeter shooting on the team, right now? Hodge wouldn't address that...

And what about a good, pure playmaking PG? Do we need one of those?
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I like Hodge because Yi and Brooks like to shoot outside. Need big guards to balance that, ones that can rebound and play defense.
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I see, that's a great point.

I mean, there's a good chance this last guy will get no playing time.

However, with our luck, and with the injury history of everyone on our roster (Carter, Simmons, Dooling, Hayes, Harris, Boone D: ), it's very likely he will fill an important role, one way or another.

Keith 'scoring machine' McCleod

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Aug 5 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, let's backtrack . . . the Nets have 15 players under contract, plus Van Horn's contract which they'd love to trade, plus they traditionally like to carry just 14 players. So to carry either Hodge or Carroll, there has to be some juggling to create room. The Nets COULD buy out/release Ager, which would create one slot. I can't imagine them buying out or releasing anyone else, to be honest.

So I think the most pressing thing is to try to get some value for Van Horn's contract while they can . . . I think that will determine what direction they go in, to be honest.</div>

I keep forgetting about Van Horn.

What teams, other than Memphis of course, do you think would want him? Would we have to package Sean and/or a pick to get a good player back?

It's entirely possible that we could pick up a legit backup, 2nd string point guard if we give away enough. Possibly a point that could play alongside Keyon (we know how Frank likes his small-guard lineups).

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential. I would say Jaycee would be great because he would be cheap, we wouldn't have to give anything up, and he adds hustle, defense, and perimeter shooting. I dont want to give up Sean for a washed up vet 3rd stringer.
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Do people talk just to look at their own posts??? Where in the world did you get the idea that Jaycee would improve our perimeter defense.... cmon buddy.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential.
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Lowry would definitely get playing time under Frank. You know him - he loves to put 2 point guards in at the same time. Likelihood is if that we do pick up another PG, Keyon will spend time at the SG position, and we'll run small ball lineups.

This raises another question: Is everyone okay with small-ball lineups, or would you rather have him have a bunch of bigs that he's practically forced to use?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bling890 @ Aug 5 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential. I would say Jaycee would be great because he would be cheap, we wouldn't have to give anything up, and he adds hustle, defense, and perimeter shooting. I dont want to give up Sean for a washed up vet 3rd stringer.
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Do people talk just to look at their own posts“? Where in the world did you get the idea that Jaycee would improve our perimeter defense.... cmon buddy.
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I didnt say perimiter defense, I said defense. Dont want to be nitpicky here. The fact is if you watched him play summer league, which I did thanks to free NBAtv for some crazy reason, you see that he is so active as a defender and really does frustrate the other guards. While it was summer league and thus should be taken with a grain of salt, it did show an element of hustle on defense that the Nets straight up didnt have last year.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 5 2008, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential.
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Lowry would definitely get playing time under Frank. You know him - he loves to put 2 point guards in at the same time. Likelihood is if that we do pick up another PG, Keyon will spend time at the SG position, and we'll run small ball lineups.

This raises another question: Is everyone okay with small-ball lineups, or would you rather have him have a bunch of bigs that he's practically forced to use?
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Small ball would be tough, especially due tot he fact that the only reliable big we have that rebounds is Josh Boone. Neither Harris nor dooling are exemplary rebounders. however, i do like the idea of playing harris and dooling together, with carter at the 3 najera at the 4 and maybe boone at the 5. this would seem like a team capable of good defense as well as a bit of scoring. Still rebounding would be the issue (although it is with most small ball lineups)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 11:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bling890 @ Aug 5 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential. I would say Jaycee would be great because he would be cheap, we wouldn't have to give anything up, and he adds hustle, defense, and perimeter shooting. I dont want to give up Sean for a washed up vet 3rd stringer.
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Do people talk just to look at their own posts“? Where in the world did you get the idea that Jaycee would improve our perimeter defense.... cmon buddy.
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I didnt say perimiter defense, I said defense. Dont want to be nitpicky here. The fact is if you watched him play summer league, which I did thanks to free NBAtv for some crazy reason, you see that he is so active as a defender and really does frustrate the other guards. While it was summer league and thus should be taken with a grain of salt, it did show an element of hustle on defense that the Nets straight up didnt have last year.
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Hmmmm well I do admit that I didnt get to watch the summer league games, so a point goes to you there. I simply assumed perimeter defense because Jaycee is strictly a perimeter player, therefore what other defense could he posibly help us with?? Also I saw numeroud posts from observers saying that eh was too slow with his feet to be an adequate defender. Simply providing effort isn;t enough. If jaycee lacks foot speed to move with NBA players, it will only result in frequent blowby's and would force the nets to scramble on defense. Hell, Ediie House TRIES on defense, but as we see with him, TRYING in the NBA is not always enough.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bling890 @ Aug 5 2008, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 5 2008, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gobillsdeep @ Aug 5 2008, 11:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 5 2008, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should work something out with Memphis, but i just don't wanna give up Sean, it would be funny thought if Stro goes back there lol i highly doubt it though</div>

I dont know if trading with Memphis makes sense. We would have to give up something at least remotely valuable (more than Swift) and we're talking about taking back a young point guard (Lowry or Crittendon) to be the 3rd stringer. Neither one of them would get much playing time at all which doesnt really make sense for young players who need to progress in order to reach their potential.
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Lowry would definitely get playing time under Frank. You know him - he loves to put 2 point guards in at the same time. Likelihood is if that we do pick up another PG, Keyon will spend time at the SG position, and we'll run small ball lineups.

This raises another question: Is everyone okay with small-ball lineups, or would you rather have him have a bunch of bigs that he's practically forced to use?
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Small ball would be tough, especially due tot he fact that the only reliable big we have that rebounds is Josh Boone. Neither Harris nor dooling are exemplary rebounders. however, i do like the idea of playing harris and dooling together, with carter at the 3 najera at the 4 and maybe boone at the 5. this would seem like a team capable of good defense as well as a bit of scoring. Still rebounding would be the issue (although it is with most small ball lineups)
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I agree, rebounding might be a problem - but remember, Vince is an exceptional rebounder at his position, and Najera isn't much of a slouch either. IMO they'd be able to handle the rebounding, along with Boone, better than you'd think.

by the way Pegs, you have any idea where jizzy and jarkid went??? lol this place is losing its marketing appeal without those two. Can we offer them 10 day contracts or something? lol

Hodge or Carroll would be fine. Neither will play IMO.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Aug 5 2008, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hodge or Carroll would be fine. Neither will play IMO.</div>

Players get injured. Others underperform. Everyone will get a chance to play at some point (except Swift).