<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (downunderwonder @ Aug 4 2008, 03:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well wanna get rid of waste and pick up some quality? It'll take maybe both picks gained in trade (Dallas and GS) but I think it could work. Wilcox+Ridnour for Van Horn, Hassell, Swift, Sean and picks. OKC are really going to suck this year but freeing up time for Westbrook and getting a more athletic front line might help. Either way they could cut Swift and Van Horn and just take the picks. We get Wilcox in a contract year. Always a plus. Ridnour would be a good option for 2/3PG. Sure we ship the picks but we do end up with a better side...</div> Picking up Wilcox just further complicates our PF rotation. Plus, two 1st rounders and Sean to rent Wilcox for a year and a back-up PG seems a bit excessive.
for this to happen b4 aug 25 this would get the deal done ASAP! 1st trade: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash= 2nd trade: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/trad...p;te=&cash= then just buyout aaron gray
Got another one. 3-way with NJ-Chicago-Portland To NJ: Hughes and LaFrentz To Chicago: Simmons, KVH, Webster, Frye To Portland: Nocioni, Swift, Ager Can actually be done as 2 separate trades if you just isolate Simmons for Hughes. Move Carter to SF and start Hughes in the backcourt. Hayes backs up the 3 and CDR the 2. LaFrentz is 3rd string center. In a separate trade the Nets can try and move Swat for Crittenton or Lowry. C: Lopez/Boone/LaFrentz PF: Najera/Yi/Anderson SF: Carter/Hayes/Hassell SG: Hughes/CDR/Hodge PG: Harris/Dooling/Crittenton (or Lowry) Portland gets Nocioni to man the 3. Chicago saves money to re-sign Gordon and gets quality back-ups. NJ gets a proven scorer, ballhandler and defender to help take pressure off VC and Harris.
I'm not down with Hughes at all. I'd rather have Webster than Hughes. I don't really see how this improves us all that much...other than getting rid of Swift.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 11 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not down with Hughes at all. I'd rather have Webster than Hughes. I don't really see how this improves us all that much...other than getting rid of Swift.</div> Hughes is a much better defender, ballhandler and scorer than Simmons and his contract is the same length. Basically it's a way to replace Simmons with Hughes without impacting the plan for 2010. Both are a potential injury liabilty. Also gives much more flexibility with lineups. Harris, Carter, Hughes, and Dooling can all create and with our bigs that is a necessity.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 11 2008, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 11 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not down with Hughes at all. I'd rather have Webster than Hughes. I don't really see how this improves us all that much...other than getting rid of Swift.</div> Hughes is a much better defender, ballhandler and scorer than Simmons and his contract is the same length. Basically it's a way to replace Simmons with Hughes without impacting the plan for 2010. Both are a potential injury liabilty. Also gives much more flexibility with lineups. Harris, Carter, Hughes, and Dooling can all create and with our bigs that is a necessity. </div> I see Hughes as more of a locker room cancer. I also remember seeing him in the playoffs the season before last. He wasn't that great of a defender. He just steals good. He also doesn't seem to fit the sort of mentality it seems Thorn, Kiki, and Frank are trying to build with this team - hardworking, winning players who enforce good team chemistry. The thing about him and Simmons is that they both have shitty contracts. It's just that with Simmons' contract being shorter, his is less shitty and therefore more appealing. And if the "plan" for 2010 is still to get Lebron, well, I don't think he'd be all that excited to have Hughes on his team again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 11 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 11 2008, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 11 2008, 12:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not down with Hughes at all. I'd rather have Webster than Hughes. I don't really see how this improves us all that much...other than getting rid of Swift.</div> Hughes is a much better defender, ballhandler and scorer than Simmons and his contract is the same length. Basically it's a way to replace Simmons with Hughes without impacting the plan for 2010. Both are a potential injury liabilty. Also gives much more flexibility with lineups. Harris, Carter, Hughes, and Dooling can all create and with our bigs that is a necessity. </div> The thing about him and Simmons is that they both have shitty contracts. It's just that with Simmons' contract being shorter, his is less shitty and therefore more appealing. And if the "plan" for 2010 is still to get Lebron, well, I don't think he'd be all that excited to have Hughes on his team again. </div> Simmons isn't shorter... they both expire in 2010. He'll be going out while Lebron is coming in. Not sure Hughes is a lockerroom cancer. And don't forget his best seasons were with Washington in a motion offense. With some elements of that here Hughes could thrive again.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 11 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry but no way Portland does this trade.</div> Why not? Nocioni is exactly what they need at SF. A frontline of Oden/Aldridge/Nocioni to go along with Roy and Bayless is pretty sweet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 11 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 11 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry but no way Portland does this trade.</div> Why not? Nocioni is exactly what they need at SF. A frontline of Oden/Aldridge/Nocioni to go along with Roy and Bayless is pretty sweet. </div> You are forgetting Travis Outlaw.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Aug 11 2008, 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 11 2008, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 11 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm sorry but no way Portland does this trade.</div> Why not? Nocioni is exactly what they need at SF. A frontline of Oden/Aldridge/Nocioni to go along with Roy and Bayless is pretty sweet. </div> You are forgetting Travis Outlaw. </div> Yeah right. I wasn't going into bench. There you have Pryzbilla, Outlaw, Blake, Diogu, Fernandez, and Rodriguez. Solid team. They just need that veteran SF that can come in and play hard defense, be aggressive, stretch the defense with outside shooting, and help some of the other guys with his experience.
And as for Hughes being a cancer, on May 2, 2006 he was recipient of the inaugural Austin Carr Good Guy Award, designed to recognize the Cavaliers player who is cooperative and understanding of the media, the community and the public. This was one week before his brother died. After his brother died he founded the Larry Hughes Foundation that helps familys with organ donations. I don't think he's a bad guy or lockerroom cancer.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 11 2008, 02:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And as for Hughes being a cancer, on May 2, 2006 he was recipient of the inaugural Austin Carr Good Guy Award, designed to recognize the Cavaliers player who is cooperative and understanding of the media, the community and the public. This was one week before his brother died. After his brother died he founded the Larry Hughes Foundation that helps familys with organ donations. I don't think he's a bad guy or lockerroom cancer.</div> You didn't follow all that shit about complaining because he had to play PG, not caring about winning a championship, and not really wanting to play basketball anymore? Not a guy I'd want on my team, at all.
