I guess I'm out of touch.

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  1. KingSpeed

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    For racist remarks, exactly. ANd if you think you saw more hate from liberals than you did at Palin rallies, then you didn't watch the people at the Palin rallies.
     
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    maxie- the title of this thread says it all: you are terribly terribly out of touch. Isolated in your own world, unaware of everything that is out there. Which is fine.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    So, who is keeping them down? Who crushed the dreams of Barry Gordy? Robert Johnson? Ken Chennault? Stan O'Neill?

    I maintain the biggest excuse to not succeed is facing black people in the mirror.
     
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    Horribly out of touch. Horribly out of touch.
     
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    RISE WITH IT thisCouldgetAlilKrazy!

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    So you're saying that race has nothing to do with culture or economics? It's all tied together. Black kids have to go to worse schools and live in areas with more drugs and violence. It's not an excuse or a cop out. It's reality. Open your freaking eyes.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I asked a question that has yet to be answered. If you're so sure that discrimination is unfathomably deep and wide, certainly you should be able to explain it.
     
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    not at all. in reality, this election signifies nothing unless you thought that more than half of voting americans would refuse to vote for someone simply because they are black.

    but hey, obama is the first black president and people always like to make much bigger deals out of firsts than they really are so that isn't going to be any different here.
     
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    In fact your remark was racist. You were implying that all black people are failures. You maybe didn't mean to, but...Read your comment again.
     
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    I've seen and heard racists with my eyes and ears. If you haven't, then you are sheltered or not paying attention.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    I hear people say it, but other than specific incidents by nutjobs on the fringes, I have yet to see it practiced every day. If it's endemic, it should be easy to spot it.
     
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    TO use your mirror analogy: If you want to see racism in this country, look in the mirror.
     
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    going to worse schools and living in worse areas has nothing to do with race and everything to do with wealth. that is the reality.

    of course there is a lot more to the entire discussion than just that and much of it has to do with the past not things that are actually going on right now.
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    So have I. It doesn't mean that it's mainstream. There are people that don't trust Catholics; are we an anti-Catholic society too?
     
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    You may very well live in a neighborhood where there is no racism. Where people are reasonable. Those neighborhoods obviously exist because Obama won. Obviously not everyone is racist. But there is lots of racism in this country. Go South.
     
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    Okay, how am I racist? How am I sexist? How am I anti-gay? How am I bigoted against other religions?
     
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    So the reason there isn't a black person in the Forbes top 25 richest American (I'm assuming) is because all black people use excuses instead of just trying to get rich?

    Obama, while breaking a major barrier, hasn't broken the barrier I would like to see broken . . . to have a proportionate number of CEOs or whatever in the private sector.

    I don't know how long that barrier will take to break . . . it will be harder than being a gov't official. But I suspect there will be a day when seeing the picture of a black man as one of the top 10 richest Americans will happen. I have to feel that way today, I just witness this country elect a black president (i still maintain that the presidency deserves an asterisks . . . or at lest give Bush the assist.)
     
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    there isn't as much racism in this country as you are implying. yes there is racism here. there is racism everyone and there always will be.

    are you really pretending that only reasonable people voted for obama and only unreasonable racist people voted for mccain?
     
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    maxiep RIP Dr. Jack

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    Nope. I was responding to idea that there should be proportional racial representation in the Forbes 400. Eric, how many minority neighborhoods have you lived in? For how long?
     
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    And why do those blacks lack wealth? Because of where they came from. The way we treated them in our country. But it's getting better now. And that's why tonight is so amazing. Over the last 40 years, we have gotten better. And now look at tonight! Amazing. Barrier broken.

    I'm not gonna fight this anymore. I know what I know. You know what you know. Tonight is an amazing night in American, if not, World history. This is a moment Martin Luther King Jr dreamed of.
     
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    See, identity is important to you. Why does everything have to be proportional?

    Achievement is important to me. Merit is important to me. Nothing else matters.
     

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