Blockbuster trade idea

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Here is the link http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n4jkyd4
Here is an alternate version depending on how much OKC values Jackson http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mj779f5
In addition to the players listed it is likely that Portland would owe a first round pick.

In addition

Now here is why the trade is beneficial:

Portland: The team clearly needs some front court help several of the teams losses have been a result of being dominated in the paint. Lopez helps but he cannot do it all and Meyers Leonard is still completely clueless on the defensive side of the ball. Nick Collison is a proven defender willing to do whatever it takes to win he is the exact type of player Portland needs. In addition to the defense Collison provides Spencer Hawes would add a new dynamic to this offense and really stretch out opposing defenses. Making life much easier for LA on the block or for dribble penetration. Giving up Mo Williams required us to get a back up pg in this case we just so happened to get to the leagues best back up in Reggie Jackson. Even if we have to substitute McCollum for Williams the deal is worth it because of how young Jackson is.

OKC: The Thunder are contenders so convincing them to make a deal might prove to be difficult. Especially one that asks them to give up Reggie Jackson. Giving them a player like Mo Williams allows them to keep a scorer on their bench. Freeland while not quite as refined as Collison plays hard and could fill in for Collison. The biggest addition for the Thunder would be Thaddeus Young, his addition would greatly improve the Thunder bench. In addition they find someone willing to take on Perkins contract.

Philly: Despite the nice start it is clear that the 76ers want a high draft pick. The additions of Leonard, Robinson and Perkins would guarantee this team a top five pick for sure. In addition, they get two young players with potential in Robinson and Leonard. With Hawes and Young out of the way the team could offer both of them all the minutes they could handle. Finally, the team would receive probably 2 first round picks from the Thunder. They would likely get the Thunders pick this year and the highest pick from the Blazers, Thunder or Mavericks in 2016.

To recap:
Portland gets a young dynamic back up PG, a quality post defender in Collison and a floor stretching back up C in Hawes. The deal would certainly cost a 2016 first round pick and the young talent of Robinson, Leonard and maybe McCollum. If Portland can retain Hawes in the off-season or win a few playoff series with him this year than it would be worth gambling future assets.

OKC gets rid of a terrible contract in Perkins adds a great scoring threat off the bench in Young, they also get either McCollum to replace the loss of Reggie Jackson. Long term it is likely the Thunder would want McCollum but Mo Williams might be a better short term fit considering his experience.

Philly gets a guaranteed top 5 pick in a loaded draft an additional first round draft pick in this draft and a 2016 first rounder. In addition, they get a couple young players who could blossom or be swapped later for additional picks.
 
Among many others, I don't think PHI is going to give up the cap space they're getting from their expirings this year for Perk (especially) and two relative busts like Robinson and Leonard.
 
Among many others, I don't think PHI is going to give up the cap space they're getting from their expirings this year for Perk (especially) and two relative busts like Robinson and Leonard.

The cap space would still be there even with the addition of Perkins Leonard and Robinson the team would only have a guaranteed salary of 22 million, add in 5 million for a high lottery pick and 2 for a low first rounder and the team still has around 30 million in cap space.
 
No offense but trade ideas are a waste of threads. 1 out of 1000 prob happen
 
Among many others, I don't think PHI is going to give up the cap space they're getting from their expirings this year for Perk (especially) and two relative busts like Robinson and Leonard.

I agree. The 76ers get the bad end of that trade.
 
No offense but trade ideas are a waste of threads. 1 out of 1000 prob happen

No offense but virtually every thread is a waste, the Blazers do not look at these threads to see who we think should play, the writers we critique or praise do not come on here to read what we write about them. Basically these threads do a few things they allow you to either make friends, have fun, get in fights, piss people off, and provide interesting things to read and write about during the several months of the year when Portland's weather is complete garbage.
 
We clean house on that while getting the future Joel Freeland now. No way Philly does it.
 
I don't really want an angry Mo Williams on our division rivals.
 
We clean house on that while getting the future Joel Freeland now. No way Philly does it.

Two young assets and a couple first round picks how much do you expect them to end up getting out of Spencer Hawes and Thaddeus Young?
 
We don't need any big trades. If the Blazers do anything it should be something small to bring in a veteran defensive wing and to free up a spot on the roster.
 
Olshey is on twitter, you should send him the trade link.
 
Not a blockbuster but Pierre Jackson is seeking a trade from the Pelicans.

The guy is a spark plug.
 
With all due respect, I don't care for that. If we were to trade Mo, I would be fine with Watson coming off the bench or a combination of Lillard, Matthews, McCollum and Watson with maybe some spot time for Barton. I also would rather have a tougher guy like Freeland than Hawes. I know Hawes has more experience but that also comes with a higher eventual price tag. I'll also say I am very pleased with Freeland's progress and I think he is just getting better. Collison is intriquing but T-Rob is more of the type of backup PF we need. I'm also looking at chemistry. Ultimately I think this hurts our chemistry and let's face it, that is a huge reason why we've started out as well as we have.
 
With all due respect, I don't care for that. If we were to trade Mo, I would be fine with Watson coming off the bench or a combination of Lillard, Matthews, McCollum and Watson with maybe some spot time for Barton. I also would rather have a tougher guy like Freeland than Hawes. I know Hawes has more experience but that also comes with a higher eventual price tag. I'll also say I am very pleased with Freeland's progress and I think he is just getting better. Collison is intriquing but T-Rob is more of the type of backup PF we need. I'm also looking at chemistry. Ultimately I think this hurts our chemistry and let's face it, that is a huge reason why we've started out as well as we have.

Yeah I agree regarding Hawes. If we get a better backup center he needs to be a defensive presence. Hawes is a downgrade from Freeland in that regard.
 
Yeah I agree regarding Hawes. If we get a better backup center he needs to be a defensive presence. Hawes is a downgrade from Freeland in that regard.

Collison would be the defensive big.
 
With all due respect, I don't care for that. If we were to trade Mo, I would be fine with Watson coming off the bench or a combination of Lillard, Matthews, McCollum and Watson with maybe some spot time for Barton. I also would rather have a tougher guy like Freeland than Hawes. I know Hawes has more experience but that also comes with a higher eventual price tag. I'll also say I am very pleased with Freeland's progress and I think he is just getting better. Collison is intriquing but T-Rob is more of the type of backup PF we need. I'm also looking at chemistry. Ultimately I think this hurts our chemistry and let's face it, that is a huge reason why we've started out as well as we have.

You might be right but so does losing in the first round of the playoffs, which is still a distinct possibility for this team based on its horrible defense
 
You might be right but so does losing in the first round of the playoffs, which is still a distinct possibility for this team based on its horrible defense

Losing in the first round is a danger the majority of playoff teams face. I'd like to see us shore up the defense by then, but I admit that it's probably unlikely we see a major difference. In my view, we don't improve with this trade. I realize there's a win now attitude. That's not accomplished by having Collison as the only bench big guy. Hawes is no inside banger and should Aldridge and/or Lopez, knock on wood, become injured, I just don't think we would have enough depth at the 4/5, even if we signed a D-Leaguer or someone else to fill the vacant roster spot.
 
Face it without a trade if LA or Lopez get injured our front court would be in a lot worse shape having to rely on Robinson, Leonard or Freeland starting than it would with Collison or Hawes filling in.
 
Face it without a trade if LA or Lopez get injured our front court would be in a lot worse shape having to rely on Robinson, Leonard or Freeland starting than it would with Collison or Hawes filling in.

That still doesn't get us out of the first round.
 
That still doesn't get us out of the first round.

My bench would be Jackson, Williams or McCollum, Wright, Collison and Hawes combined with the way our starters have been playing if that does not get us out of the first round it is very likely nothing will.
 
My bench would be Jackson, Williams or McCollum, Wright, Collison and Hawes combined with the way our starters have been playing if that does not get us out of the first round it is very likely nothing will.

Then apparently we won't get out of the first round. Look, I understand you would like this trade to happen, but the fact is, we don't really improve enough, if at all, to pull the trigger on it.

It really doesn't matter though. It's extremely unlikely either OKC or Philly would go for it anyway.
 
I take it you really do not care for Hawes cause he is a major upgrade over Leonard IMO, I also believe Collison represents a sizable upgrade over Freeland and Robinson. Lastly Jackson is better than Mo Williams and CJ McCollum right now. So while we might lose out down the road I feel quite confident that we would be making a short term improvement at 3 positions.
 
I take it you really do not care for Hawes cause he is a major upgrade over Leonard IMO, I also believe Collison represents a sizable upgrade over Freeland and Robinson. Lastly Jackson is better than Mo Williams and CJ McCollum right now. So while we might lose out down the road I feel quite confident that we would be making a short term improvement at 3 positions.

Leonard is not our backup center. Freeland is. While he's still rough, he's an inside guy which is what we need more than a seven foot outside shooter. Remember, we have the highest scoring offense in the league. As deficient as our defense has been, this disrupts our offense. Jackson is not better than Williams at this point. He may become better just about the time he would leave. McCollum is too much of a question mark. Frankly, I would like to see how he pans out. We were probably lucky to get him in such a weak draft, but the potential is there.

Again, I understand you want to make this trade or apparently any number of trades. I'm very confident this does not help this year nor in the future. Like I said earlier, neither of the other teams are going to go for this trade. I'd even add that I don't see Olshey looking seriously at such a deal either.
 
No offense but trade ideas are a waste of threads. 1 out of 1000 prob happen

Not true. Well thought out trade ideas are interesting and fun. I've created threads that have received around 500 comments - mostly debate, additional trade ideas, etc.
 
Not true. Well thought out trade ideas are interesting and fun. I've created threads that have received around 500 comments - mostly debate, additional trade ideas, etc.

The trade threads with the most posts seem to be full of people trolling. My thread has not had many replies but at least people like Bill make civil arguments,
 

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