The one deal that makes total sense for me.

Huh? Future firsts are more valuable for future trades for Toronto instead of a Thaddeus young contract people don't want to pay. They are trying to unload contracts like Landry fields, not acquire them

 

You don't think Portland will be able to keep those players?

 

Young is a 17 PPG, 6.7 rebound and 17.3 PER player. You don't think he's worth 9 mil? WTF?!?! How you feel about Batum getting 11 mil with less points, less rebounds and the same PER?

 

I think Olshey will only do a trade if it is a homerun.Toronto or Philly may be interested in dumping those guys to the highest bidder but not until the day off the trade deadline.

 

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Since they traded Rudy Gay, they are 4-1 with road wins at DAL and OKC. They are in 1st place in the pathetic Atlantic Conference and currently have HCA in the first round. As bad as the East is, they could easily win their division and make it to the second round.

Lowry is easily their second best player, possibly their best. Thad Young is not a borderline all-star. If he is then Lowry is a shoe in to make the all-star team. Toronto actually has a pretty good 3-guard rotation since the Rudy Gay trade. Both Lowry and Greivis Vasquez can play both guard positions. Lowry starts at PG with Terence Ross at SG and then Vasquez comes in guards the other team's SG, but lets Lowry play of the ball on offense. Seems to be working well for them. If they trade Lowry, it leaves them thin in the backcourt.

And, they wouldn't have Young locked up for three years - it would be one and a half. He has a player option for 2105-16. And, would he even start in Toronto? Amir Johnson has been absolutely BEASTING. He's racking up double-doubles, including 32/10 in a win over the Lakers and here's his FG shooting over the last 9 games:

7/10 = .700
9/15 = .600
14/17 = .824
9/11 = .818
8/11 = .727
6/11 = .545
5/9 = .546
5/8 = .625
7/11 = .636

Total: 70/103 = .680

And he's averaging 17.8/9.6 over those last 9 games. Do you really bench a guy who's playing like that in favor of Thad Young? Young is a good player, but you end up giving up a starter (Lowry) and creating a log jam at PF.

I don't think Toronto would be even slightly interested in this trade.

BNM

 

I can see us getting a player like Lowry this summer with our MLE. I don't think it's enough to get Hawes. If we could manage a deal for Hawes, with only using Robinson, Claver and Leonard; we should jump on it. Then the summer, we can get Lowry anyway.

 

Big fish/small pond. Young is putting up those numbers as the number 2 option on a team that's 8-20. Batum is putting up his numbers as the number 4 option on a team that's 23-5.

BNM

 

The question isn't who is better. If Young was better than Lowry, I would rather have him. The question is, do you think Toronto will be able to keep Lowry?

 

If they want to, sure. Lowry wants to start and deserves to. He would probably resign with Toronto if hes the starter instead of signing with us to be a backup

 

I would never think Batum is not worth his contract, but saying Young isn't worth his is just plain silly. 9 mil for a 17 PPG, 6.7 rebound and 17.3 PER player is a nice contract. Do you think it isn't?

 

I think if we win it all, he would be more than happy to play the "The Jet" role off the bench; especially since he would probably average 25 minutes a game regardless.

 

They play different positions, but I'd say Lowry and Young are about equal in talent level and what they bring. The difference is Lowry fills a position of need (he's the staring PG) and Young would be redundant. He's a better scorer than Amir Johnson, but Johnson is a better rebounder and better defender.

Sure Toronto can keep Lowry if they want to. They have his Bird Rights. That gives them an advantage over the rest of the league in retaining his services - if they choose.

BNM

 

It's not the $$$$, Toronto doesn't want long term deals.

 

He is a young guy that has wanted to start in years past. I think you are incorrect

 

You just said Toronto would resign Lowry, then you say they don't want "long term deals". In order for Toronto to sign Lowry, it would have to be long term. So which is it?

 

If you win a ring, then that's all that matters.

 

To some, yes.to others, no

 

I'm not saying they would, but they could decide to resign Lowry or they could just let him walk.. From all signs it appears they want to get rid of guys with years on deals. They have Johnson, so it's redundant to tie up money on both Johnson and young.

Either way, Toronto wants picks or to package fields with Lowry. Your deal doesn't meet either of Toronto's wants.

 

Not really. I think he's slightly overpaid. He's an undersized 4, a tweener, really. He can't guard 4s or 3s. He's the same height as Paul Millsap, but Millsap is much stronger. Millsap is a very good rebounder for his size. Young is not. I want more than 6.7 rpg out of my starting PF. He gets out rebounded by his opponent by 2.7 REB/48. One of the reasons Philly is 8-20 and in last place in the worst division in NBA history is because they are forced to start Thaddeus Young at power forward.

You can't look at his numbers in a vacuum. 17/6.7 is a good role player on a winning team, it's actually pretty sucky for the number 2 option on an 8-20 team. Borderline all-star???? Seriously??? The East sucks, but they don't suck that bad!

BNM