Bad goal, bad giveaway

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  1. Messiah717

    Messiah717 Moderator Staff Member Moderator

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    Hank wouldn't of stopped it based on what? The fact that he has his entire career?
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    Cam could have gotten A piece of the last shot, I know he didn't see it but he has to fight harder to see pucks
     
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    The 2nd goal is definately one he needs to stop. We'll see how he now does in games 3-5 which he hasn't had before. Maybe there's a little more nerves knowing he's the guy right now. It would be nice if they could help the guy out offensively.
     
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    The funny thing is Cam makes saves on some pretty hard shots but he lets questionable goals in
     
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    At Toronto, at Colorado, at Arizona, at Isles. In theory the Leafs and Zona should be wins. Avs and Isles hope to split, but without Hank maybe 1-3 would be good.

    Canucks, at Sabres, BJ's, Flames, Zona should be a good stretch of 5 for us though. Should win 3 at least, and hope for 4.

    Then hope Hank is back soon after because we have a crazy hard 6 game stretch starting on the 28th at Philly. 5 of those on the road. If Hank misses all those games we are in trouble IMO.
     
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    strudwickisthebest Well-Known Member

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    This is all thanks to that idiot McDonagh who couldn't keep his stick from lifting Hanks fucking mask up
     
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    chuck, you make no sense. They are 1-1-1 with cam in net. Not sure how you can say he cant be counted on.
     
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    Here is what I know, out of the 6 goals Cam has let up in the past two games Hanks stops at least 3. Now with that said it isn't fair to compare Cam to one of the best 2 or 3 goalies in the world. So I will say 2 of the goals Cam allowed the past two games need to be stopped. 1 or 2 others could have been stopped.

    To me the bottom line is I don't have faith in Cam to make the big stop. I feel if we don't play pretty much perfect D and give the other team decent chances they will score goals.

    Like I said you can step up your game when Cam plays 1 out of 8 or 10 games, when he plays 14 of 15 it doesn't work like that.

    We are going to need to score more with Cam in goal, but considering we got 2 goals, and 1 in the last minute, against poor on D Dallas my hopes for that are low. We better score at least 3 at Toronto or we will lose there as well...might even need 4 there.
     
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    First off I am not going to blame McDonagh, that was a crazy one off type of play.

    As for Cam, I said it before the Preds game that I didn't think he could be counted on. Maybe I will be proven right and maybe I will be proven wrong, I don't know. All I know is since they said Hank is out for minimum 3 or 4 weeks we are 0-1-1 and he has allowed 3 goals in each game, and I think 3 goals he should have stopped.

    So far I think I have been right, but it is two games, so I could still be very wrong. Hope I am.
     
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    You're seeing why Cam is a backup goalie. We're spoiled having Hank just like any other team with a net minder of that caliber. Look it was a freak accident with what happened with Lundqvist. I'm more upset with the fact that Mcdonagh's overall play has been below average all season. I wouldn't be shocked to hear that shoulder needs surgery after this season.
     
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    They likely wouldve lost in the SO anyway so at least the salvaged a point, with Florida getting one they need to keep them at bay.
     
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    so I guess Boston game does not count.
     
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    Overall the team defense outside of Lundqvist helping is shaky. They give up alot of plays at the net because they're generally undersized and not overly physical.
     
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    I totally agree Mess. I am not mad at McD because of a freak play, I am mad at McD because he hasn't had the season any of us expected.

    To me this also clearly shows why as I have been saying for 3 years now we MUST go all in with Hank. The guy is 32 now, he has what 3 or 4 top years left. It is stupid, yes that is the word stupid, to sit back and wait and worry about 3 and 4 years from now as our all world goalie is 32. Flat out stupid.

    Hearing and seeing Hank talk today I feel better. I know the injury will still dictate, but he said he feels fine. I expect he is back by worst case early March, if not sooner, which is good. And I cannot see him not being back for at least the last 15 games or so, which should set him up nicely for the playoffs.
     
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    Boyle has been garbage. Would be better off with Stralman.
     
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    Oh no Step, I said once they announced he was going to be out for 3 or 4 weeks minimum. No one knew the deal on Hank until Friday afternoon. That Boston game was just like every other one off game that Cam starts every 8 or 10 games. The team in front of him was great that night. Since it was official that Cam was the starter he has allowed 6 goals in 2 games, and 2 or 3 he should have stopped.
     
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    Yeah that was such a mistake signing Boyle , hopefully he can make up for in the playoffs
     
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    Yup, they just can't fool around with veins and arteries in the neck. Hopefully it's a 3-4 time frame instead of 4-6 week.
     
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    And as usual I disagree sc. We know you hate the D, that is clear. The D was fine today. You cannot get on Cam for an awful goal and a questionable goal and then kill the D. The other Dallas goal was a 5 on 3. Yesterday the D was fine outside of one long shift. And another soft goal by Cam ended it.

    I also do not agree on Boyle and Stralman. I think Boyle has been okay, but I MUCH rather have Boyle for 2 years than Stralman for 5 years, and it isn't close IMO. For 2 each...yeah I take Stralman, but not 2 for 5.
     
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    Boyle and St. Louis are showing their age. I don't know if you bring St. Louis back at 40 years old.
     

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